I sent Jake a few of my wishlist items for QControl a little while back. I'm sure in his copious spare time he'll get to them... Right after he's done wiping our noses.. ;)
One of the items I mentioned was the ability to give domain control to customers without giving them the whole farm. I have customers with several domains and it would be good to be able to give them one place to manage their email but only THEIR email. It sounds like Dan's suggestion is pretty close to the same. I think Jake mentioned he has some plans to mature QC into a "one stop" control panel. It can only happen if we give him $ome incentive$ to continue it. > I really like this thread, so here's my 2 cents: > > I use the CLI almost exclusively. Which works for me, the mail > administrator for our domains. But I want to train a monkey (office) > manager, secretary, etc. to do the simply stuff our customers call in > for, look up passwords, add an account. And like all of you probably > know a cli might as well be in russian, as it makes no sense to the rest > of humanity. I really like qcontrol, we purchased it and use it. but I > have to tell the monkeys, "never click in there, you can mess it all up" > for the tcp.smtp, and spam settings. what would be nice if there was a > Qcontrol-lite. or user manager, or some way to simply present the stuff > I trust people to do with a GUI, and let them have at. Qcontrol is far > superior to the other tools mentioned, and I'd personally like to see it > as a replacement for the other broken tools. some Featueres that would > rock: > > click a user name and search the logs for that account. so if a user > calls in I can click his name the server will show me all the logs with > his/her user name it. > > ability to tail a log /var/log/qmail/smtp/current, or other. > > Thanks for all the hard work > > Dan > > vqadmin could just be a qtp option > qtp-install-vqadmin would make everyone happy? > > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:54 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: >> I (shamefully, on occasion) use /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo for >> password lookups. >> >> FWIW, looking up passwords (storing passwords in clear text, to be >> precise) is considered to be a bad practice from a security standpoint. >> A more secure way is to have the admin reset the password when >> forgotten. I'm not sure why QMT is configured to store PWs in clear >> text. Might want to consider changing that in a future release. >> >> Helmut Fritz wrote: >> > I think you are correct in the issue to decide Jake. I think it can >> safely >> > be removed if everything it does is available elsewhere. Password >> lookup? >> > I know domains can be done with webmin as well as CLI. >> > >> > And I do not think vqadmin should be used for user >> creation/management. >> > Qmailadmin is plenty good there. >> > >> > So multiple tools need to be used. What would someone expect if it is >> free? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Jake Vickers [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:05 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs. >> > Qmailadmin >> > >> > Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote: >> >> Hey Jake, >> >> >> >> I do not think anyone on this list or using qmt does not apriciate >> the >> >> work you did and are doing.. >> >> >> >> For me it really is not about the 30$, just never needed an >> interface, >> >> guess I should check qcontrol maybe it will help me alot :) Anyways, >> >> as said in an other mail I am just trying to help some who are using >> >> vqadmin.. >> >> Have been active in the past with patches and helping arround on this >> >> list, been busy otherwise but figured I can still contribute some >> time >> >> to qmt. >> >> >> >> I do think (as u suggest) a good mailserver needs a basic tool to >> >> manage the users, so it would be good to fix vqadmin. >> >> Or to write a replacement, with some basic features. >> >> >> >> Guess I should crawl back under the stone I was the past year.. seems >> >> this all stirs up things .. >> >> Sorry for that. >> > >> > I think the topic actually generated some good ideas and traffic. I'm >> trying >> > to get the project back into giving the community what they ask for - >> I >> > can't do this if you don't tell me what you want! >> > I know lots of people appreciate the work that I and others do. That's >> not >> > the issue I was ranting on. It costs actual money to run a project >> like >> > this, and most people do not understand that. I'm not even counting >> time >> > spent, just actual server costs. >> > >> > I'd started 2 or 3 projects in the past to write a replacement for >> Vqadmin >> > with other people, but they always died on the vine. I found it >> frustrating. >> > After a specific user went on a long-winded thread on how open source >> would >> > never work because we wouldn't write a GUI that worked I decided to >> sit down >> > and learn the skills I lacked to write the thing by myself. >> > >> > I honestly don't even use my own software to administer my system(s). >> I run >> > servers for other companies around the world and I always found it >> easier to >> > use the CLI myself. Mainly out of habit. >> > >> > The only feature that I can think of that Vqadmin provides that is not >> > covered under Qmailadmin is the ability to create domains. >> > >> > I'll be starting a "video magazine" for QMT in the very near future >> with >> > how-to videos, and one of the topics I'll eventually cover is how to >> add >> > domains using the command line and why to not use Vqadmin. >> > >> > So I think the major topic we need to hash out is whether to remove >> the >> > Vqadmin package from the auto-installers or not - correct me if I am >> wrong. >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> -Eric 'shubes' >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group >> (www.vickersconsulting.com) >> Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and >> installations. >> If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and >> packages. >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> [email protected] >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group > (www.vickersconsulting.com) > Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and > installations. > If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and > packages. > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [email protected] > > >
