Hi all,
I does not know if it's interesting for you to hear my opinion as one of
the lead developers of qooxdoo. It always a bit hard to try to be
objective in my position. I will try my best ;) I should also note that
I have no strong knowledge using ExtJs so I may be wrong with some facts.
This is a snapshot of the current situation. The things will shift a lot
with the release of qooxdoo 0.8. And I also do not know what ExtJs will
offer in a half year.
This is not meant as critism to ExtJs or their users. This is just a try
to compare to different technologies. I really tried my best to be as
objective as possible.
1. Default widget appearance:
Winner: ExtJS
Comment: The blue theme look really damn nice. They have very good
designers :)
2. Styling capabilities
Winner: ExtJS
Comment: With all the applied CSS classes and nested nodes complex
styles are possible. The ultra-generic qooxdoo support does not allow
this complexity in styles yet.
3. Styling usability
Winner: qooxdoo
Comment: Cross-browser CSS is a really complex topic. If the default
look isn't enough styling could be a complex task in ExtJs while it is
quite easy in qooxdoo.
4. OO System
Winner: qooxdoo
Comment: Declaration looks cleaner. Professional features like
Mixins, Interfaces etc. are not available in ExtJs
5. Event System
Winner: qooxdoo
Comment: Keyboard events, capturing, mouse events, focus control,
shortcuts, generic drag&drop. I think the overall support in this area
is better in qooxdoo at the moment.
6. Integration with typical HTML pages
Winner: ExtJs
Comment: This was never a target for qooxdoo until now. ExtJs in the
earlier days was or still is an extension to typical webpage libraries
like YUI or Prototype.
7. Widget features
Winner: None
Comment: This is not that easy. qooxdoo has some feature like
advanced dynamically loading virtual tables which are completely missing
in ExtJs, while ExtJs has some other cool things like TabViews which
correctly handle overflowing.
8. Animation support
Winner: ExtJS
Comment: Animation support is still missing in qooxdoo.
9. Tool chain
Winner: qooxdoo
Comment: Ok, there is nothing comparable to qooxdoo in ExtJs. The
complete toolchain is non-existent. qooxdoo has things like API viewers
(for applications as well), code optimizers, resource managers, etc.
This is especially interested when the code you write your own gets
bigger than the framework code (yes - this is possible ;))
10. Support options
Winner: ExtJS
Comment: qooxdoo seems to have less mailinglist members (which are
registered) than active users in the ExtJs Forum. ExtJS has commercial
support which is not available for qooxdoo. The mailinglist of qooxdoo
is less traffic and filled with more advanced questions.
11. Custom widgets
Winner: qooxdoo
Comment: Custom widgets require HTML, DOM and CSS knowledge in
ExtJs. This is not required for qooxdoo users.
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Ok, I will stop here for the moment. There are a lot of other things to
compare. Finally it is like always: The tool which works best for you
depends on your knowledge, what you want to do and what is important for
you.
The current target of qooxdoo are professional developers with
background in typical (native) toolkits and strong OO knowledge. qooxdoo
is focussed on (massive) large-scaled web applications (>200 custom
classes are quite typical). The developers does not need to have strong
web technology skills like HTML or CSS.
The current target of ExtJs are in my opinion developers with medium to
advanced programming knowledge. They should have a good knowledge of web
technologies like HTML and CSS. These users want to enhance web pages or
build light-weight web applications and portals.
qooxdoo 0.8 will massively improve on many of the listed points.
Detailed roadmaps and plans will be published online in the following
weeks. Stay tuned :)
Cheers,
Sebastian
sub schrieb:
> Hey guys, I've been following qooxdoo for almost 2 years and I think
> it's a fantastic framework, not only for a UI but from a OO and overall
> framework perspective - fantastic stuff. It's great to see such an
> active forum as well - it give a good sense of the health of the
> project. I'd like to hear peoples thoughts on ExtJS and how it compares
> to qooxdoo. I'm quite familiar with qooxdoo but no so familiar with
> ExtJS, I'd to hear from other qooxdoo developers their thoughts on
> ExtJS. - Where does ExtJS excel compared to qooxdoo - Where does ExtJS
> fail compared to qooxdoo Maybe I need to find myself a ExtJS forum to
> ask similar questions, but I'd still be keen to hear from those that
> have tried ExtJS. Now I know that 0.8 is to promise significant things
> around layout etc will there be things there that bridges the gap to
> whatever parts where ExtJS excel? Hopefully this might be an interesting
> conversation. Cheers John
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