Hello Zaucker
I saw that Stefans intentions are not hostile to this community, I do not
know in the past due to that i am new to this community.
And I believe even if his suggestions are bad for you i believe that he
have no intension to do any harm, as i saw him (or his
team) releasing contributions as qxe so they are helping a lot.
>And to be honest, it gets a bit on my nerves, that you, Stefan, are not
even
>willing to tell who and where you are and what you are working on, are
>permanently criticizing the way 1&1 is going.
There's no need to show aggression at someone helping community.
Lets take a chill-pill shell we?
And by the way , web2py framework which won best FOSS Development Software
of 2011 at BOSSIE Awards,
releases quality contributions inside different namespace and they have
only 1 main BDFL, 2 main developers
all others are contributors. But its becoming more and more successful.
Thanks
Phyo.
CTO,
HexCode Technlogies ,
Yangon , Myanmar.
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Fritz Zaucker <[email protected]> wrote:
> I prefer the current way. If only one person deals with support questions,
> this person will be mostly absorbed doing this (and the other more
> administrative issues you mention) and will become disconnected from coding
> and thus less competent.
>
> We have been quite happy with having the responsibility to deal with our
> request tracker rotate on a monthly base. The person responsible answers
> questions directly, if possible, or otherwise dispatches them to others in
> the team. This is more efficient than everybody reading all requests.
>
> But I don't think it is very helpful to permanently come up with management
> suggestions for the core team from the outside. There are always many
> aspects that are not visible and I think Andreas and his team are doing a
> good job.
>
> And to be honest, it gets a bit on my nerves, that you, Stefan, are not
> even
> willing to tell who and where you are and what you are working on, are
> permanently criticizing the way 1&1 is going.
>
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2011, Stefan Andersson wrote:
>
> > Eclipse is a tough regimen but it apparently has worked very successfully
> > during the years. I guess if measured, they have produced more quality
> > code per hour than qooxdoo, definitively involved more people and then
> > mainly due to the fact that they delegated it on more hands.
> >
> > I agree on lack of resources limits and this is a management decision
> what
> > way to go. But your very conservative way to go can be criticized or at
> > least reflected upon. There is no need to defend your position. It is
> just
> > a decision like any.
> >
> > We think that the contrib idea is a good way to bridge this problem and
> > increase contribution code access, but it needs to be developed further
> to
> > embrace the community and push the community to start using the code
> > contributed.
> >
> > But to be more creative in this here is our suggestion:
> > 1. dedicate 1 person to answer all questions or at least most (>90%)
> questions on the list. Now all of you are doing it, which I think is a
> waste of resources and focus. Most questions and answers are quite trivial
> and can be handled by one person. He can also be the mediator. At the same
> time you get one spokesman of the core team instead of several like now.
> Many persons many ways of communication. The other will be more effective
> producing code.
> > 2. the same person shall also be a dedicated "contribution quality"
> representative going through the contributions and quality test them.
> > 3. the same person shall be a development assistant to the
> contributions, a spokesman for the core team, and a helper to solve
> technical issues with the contributions and ideas and visions of changes of
> the packages. This creates a vivid community.
> > 4. the same person proposes, when ready, to the core team contributions
> to be included to the core and participate in the decision of it.
> > 5. Pick one of you! Tino has shown to us to be the most diplomatic,
> polite, not polemic and most service oriented representative of yours so
> far. I am not saying that the others are not...
> >
> > This I believe will all increase the quality and credibility of the
> contributions like in dojo and others.
> >
> > Stefan
>
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