Yes, the name might make some people think it's not serious enough, cause it
sounds funny and some don't know how to pronounce it.
Anyway, I guess I'm measuring the popularity of a framework by how many
applications are out there, created with that framework.
I did see some writen in GWT ( not created by google ), and I understand that
there are a lot of people knowing Java, but i think there is a good majority of
people that use Apache as a webserver, and not Apache Tomcat, and GWT kind of
requires servlets, i mean you could talk with a PHP server script, but you lose
all the beauty of the framework. So I guess that's why I don't like GWT.
I also saw a lot of applications or modules created with ExtJS, I also heard
about people that were looking for ExtJS developers.
I didn't find a qooxdoo application out there, that's still in use. I know
about the list that's on the site (
http://qooxdoo.org/community/real_life_examples ) but that's not enough
I'm a bit worried about the fact that 1and1 does not use qooxdoo on their
website, I mean their Control Panel, for thier hosting service. And i'm worried
that qooxdoo is almost 7 years old now, and it still has such a small comunity.
Maybe it's going to die at some time, or maybe 1&1 will stop investing in it
I mean, when Adobe made Flex (or ActionScript) there were a lot of people that
made a lot of small applications using their tool, but qooxdoo is used only by
you guys, Why isn't there a company that relies on qooxdoo? SPAR's online store
doesn't use qooxdoo anymore and lots of link from the real_live_examples are
dead.
Those are not good signs, as much as I really like qooxdoo.
PS: Only one book writen about qx? :-\
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De la: thron7 <thomas.herchenroe...@1und1.de>
Către: qooxdoo Development <qooxdoo-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Trimis: Joi, 18 Aprilie 2013 12:04:24
Subiect: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Question
On 04/17/2013 01:02 PM, tedi tedi wrote:
How come qooxdoo is not as popular as GWT or ExtJS ?
That's a tough question to answer. You don't get much feedback from
people that decide against a technology ;-). It's also a question
about how you measure being popular. You could say popularity for a
JS framework is measured by the number of *developers* using it to
create applications. Being a deverloper tool that would be a decent
measure of popularity in my view. But you could also say it's the
number of *users* using applications written with qooxdoo. Wouldn't
an application with a million users speak towards the underlying
framework?! And in the latter respect I think qooxdoo doesn't fare
that badly.
But even if you stick with the #developers measure - how do you
assess it?! Number of downloads of the SDK?! Number of queries on
Google?! If you e.g. look at Google Trends you will find that the
number of queries related to Perl have significantly decreased over
the years. Does that mean the number of developers has decreased, or
fallen below all other scripting languages? Or just that it has
become so easy and common-sense to go directly to the relevant
information that fewer people need to search for it?! Python and
Ruby on the other hand have relatively stable query counts over the
last years. Does that mean their user bases have stalled?!
Anyway, I would tend to think that there are fewer developers using
qooxdoo than GWT or ExtJS. With GWT it's easy to explain as GWT is a
strong web development platform for *Java* programmers. Alll shops
with Java skills would naturally slant towards GWT. I'm not so sure
about ExtJS. I don't think it is about technical merits (nor about
marketing efforts as some people have it). Rather, my impression is
far fewer people take a deeper look at qooxdoo. Maybe things like
the name, the class and developement model or the intertwining with
the tool chain alienate people on first sight, especially when they
live west of the Atlantic. Which is a catalyst market for many
things in IT.
T.
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