Note: I understand this probably isn't the best thread for this, but the
discussion about contribs has prompted me to write the following.
I think part of it is projects wrapping up, so I would agree with you
there, however I think over the last year or so, development on qooxdoo has
been more focused on the Web components, which until recently was
essentially only a jQuery clone/replacement - useful for staying inside the
qooxdoo ecosystem, but not really useful for generating new interest from
developers and adopters.
Meanwhile, the Desktop components have seemingly reached their feature
completeness and no new advances are happening, relying on contribs for new
controls and fancy new features. As far as feature sets are concerned,
qooxdoo falls way short of Sencha or Isomorphic's SmartClient. However,
comparatively, developing for either of those toolkits is about as fun as a
root canal. The qooxdoo type system is still the bread and butter. That
said, selling the type system as opposed to having Pivot tables and graphs
and charts and [insert feature X here] to a professional development team
interested in giving their user base a fuller, richer experience is a
pretty tall order.
And because the qooxdoo type system is its #1 feature and selling point, I
think it stands on a very fragile, precarious pedestal right now. With
arguments.callee being deprecated from ECMA, some changes are necessarily
going to happen (eventually...)
Added to this, using the qooxdoo type system as a non-gui development
platform is becoming less and less important too, with Typescript gaining
popularity and ECMA6 right around the corner. From an adoption viewpoint,
this may be a hurdle or an opportunity for qooxdoo.
I know I will continue to be a qooxdoo advocate at every opportunity, but
it feels like the rich internet is moving forward and is beginning to leave
qooxdoo behind.
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:47 AM, John Spackman <john-li...@zenesis.com>wrote:
> 2 or 3 years ago, Qooxdoo was thriving and increasing it’s membership but
> that’s all changed – the mailing list is constantly going down, contrib
> activity has virtually dried up, and it seems that the majority of team
> communication goes via private channels (at least, not via the mailing
> list).
>
> I don’t believe that people loose faith in Qooxdoo once they’ve got to
> grips with it, rather that projects end and we don’t get any new users.
> IMHO David’s right: nobody knows about it.
>
> What happened?
>
> John
>
> From: David Charbonnier <dc...@oxys.net>
> Reply-To: qooxdoo Development <qooxdoo-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:27
> To: qooxdoo Development <qooxdoo-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] New contrib website
>
> +1000 compared to something like npm... Qooxdoo is definitively the best
> JavaScript framework with the oo model but nobody know it and that's a
> shame.
> Le 27 mai 2014 06:35, "John Spackman-3 [via qooxdoo]" <
> ml-node+s678n7585740...@n2.nabble.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’m glad to see that contribs are getting some new attention with the new
>> page, but the way we have to go about it is way over complicated.
>>
>> In order to author a contrib, I must have a fork of your contrib-catalog
>> in my Github account, clone it to my desktop, edit the Manifest (which is
>> largely a duplicate of the one in my contrib.’s repo), commit it, push it,
>> and issue a pull request.
>>
>> When I want to release an update to my contrib, I have to download the
>> Github tar ball to my contrib, checksum it, pull your catalog, edit,
>> commit, push, issue a pull request.
>>
>> Sorry, but this is a ridiculous. There are precious few commits to
>> contribs anyway, and this does absolutely nothing to help foster community
>> spirit or encourage collaboration.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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