If we have a substantial user base already then I think there is value in
going for a user list.
I agree and understand the point made by Cliff and Paul about the community
being fragmented.

But I also see agree with roberts comments. I think unlike other incubator
projects we do have some users already.
The user may find it a bit intimidating/confusing when they subscribe to the
dev list.

If users are already using Qpid in production then they may have significant
amount of questions.
I as a dev and the majority of user swould like to see those questions on a
seperate list so that we don't create too much distraction for either party.

Regards,

Rajith

On 11/22/06, Robert Greig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 22/11/06, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For this reason, incubating projects these days are generally
> encouraged to keep both user and devs together on one list until the
> user-oriented traffic grows to a point that it becomes too noisy and
> not useful for all developers to be hearing.

I'd turn that round slightly and ask if it's reasonable to make our
users wade through all sorts of (to them) noise on the dev list?

I certainly think all developers should subscribe to the user list,
and interact with the users.

I know from helping our internal users of Qpid that many users are
looking for help migrating from other products and are working to
deadlines. They want to be able to get help and advice quickly and I
think asking them to subscribe to a dev list would put them off. It
might also confuse them as we discuss features or concepts only
applicable to in-development versions as opposed to releases.

RG

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