how about the modtime of their .cache file?

--Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco                            Network Administrator/Engineer
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On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, John Hammond wrote:

> I don't really care if the person actually read the message or if the 
> person can read at all. I also don't care if the message has been 
> removed from the server. When people decide to leave messages on the 
> server(regardless of whether they should or not) I suspect there is a 
> way to tell from the headers if that message has been downloaded from 
> the server to the client. Whether qpopper leaves Status: behind is 
> configurable and has not been configured as such for the mailspools 
> that I want to look at. There are the logs but they are only 
> maintained for 3 months. I would like to be able to say definitively 
> when the last time the person downloaded mail was. I can't look at 
> the status of the file itself because there are programs that touch 
> the spool files.
> 
> My guess is that there is something in the X-UIDL: that will tell me 
> the download status and then I can use the date of the message to 
> complete the answer. Does anyone know if the X-UIDL contains this 
> info? I believe there is a hashing algorithm that is used to create 
> the X-UIDL, maybe not. Has anyone looked into this? written a script 
> to decipher?
> 
> 
> thanks for any help
> John
> 
> At 10:24 AM +1000 8/6/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  >
> >>  On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 16:27 -0500, David Champion wrote to John Hammond:
> >>
> >>  > * On 2004.08.05, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >>  > *       "John Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  >>
> >>  >> is there a way from the headers in the mailspool to see whether a message
> >>  >> as been read or not?
> >>  >
> >>  > For UNIX v7 ("mbox") mail files, if it has a Status: header, it's been
> >>  > read.
> >>
> >>  That depends on what you mean by "read".  Presence of a "Status:" header
> >>  simply means it has been seen by mail client software.  In the context of
> >>  qpopper, it means it has been uploaded to the mailbox owner's POP3 client
> >>  software.  It doesn't mean he/she has actually read it.
> >
> >The question that I (and I think the original poster) would like answered
> >(and maybe it has) is:
> >  Is there a way to tell if a message in the mail spool has been 'completely
> >  downloaded' by the user. In the context of the answers given (thanks, btw)
> >  does qpopper write that 'Status' header after the message has been
> >  successfully downloaded?
> >As Chip points out, we can't tell if they have read it or even if they
> >can read!
> >The qpopper log file, of course merely shows (in summary) that messages
> >have been deleted or left on the server...
> >
> >Kind regards, Peter Vaskess
> >Netlink Connect
> 
> 

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