* On 2004.08.06, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
*       "Clifton Royston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Whoa there - unless I am completely brain-dead this morning (always a
> possibility) POP doesn't re-upload messages last I looked.

You're right. *I* woke up brain-dead this morning, and when someone
mentioned uploads in this thread I got confused, and began merging
notions from POP and local UNIX v7 mail file access.


> Deleting messages automatically on download is a qpopper option, and
> one not in use at the majority of sites.  (It's nice if you can make
> people think it works that way from the beginning, but once they get
> used to "leave-mail-on-server" and checking from multiple PCs it's very
> hard to get them to switch.)  Mostly messages get deleted via a
> specific DELE command in the POP session, as I remember from times doing
> telnet-level interactive sessions to debug popper.

FTR, I agree with this, except that it is my impression that most users
must take specific steps in their applications not to automatically
issue DELEs for each RETR. I.e., it's a client app issue more than a
protocol or server issue, and I think it's quite common.

Certainly I agree that once they're accustomed to it it's hard to break
the habit. That's why we had to do Happymail -- precisely to break that
habit. :)


> I am fairly sure it does not tell you whether that message was actually
> downloaded with the RETR command, which I think comes closest to what
> was asked.  AFAIK there is no guaranteed unique thing that will get set
> in a message after the POP RETR command has been executed on that
> message.  

I agree, but I haven't seen many POP (only one) clients that allow
individual message retrieval. Most just pull down all that they've
never seen before. Maybe this is more common than I realize.

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