Hi

The issue with Ubuntu has nothing to do with processor or bits but with Qt
version.  I tracked this down a while ago and I have a build for Ubuntu that
should work.  I asked Jason to put it up on the Quackle website but I don't
see it there yet.

Matt

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Andrew Hime <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> Wow. Who dedicated August as "Be Patronizing To Hime Month" and why did no
> one tell me?
>
> I don't know what the minimum system requirements on Windows for Quackle
> are, but it wouldn't shock me if it's compiled as low-level as possible -
> Pentium? Pentium II? As such, I imagine it features zero processor
> optimizations. Consider that AMD64 spec processors almost universally
> include command sets up to SSE3, and with the various number crunching going
> on, I can imagine there is some performance increase, not to mention the
> increased register sizes may be useful.
>
> Most people for some reason are in a rush to claim that there's no benefit
> to switching to 64-bit programs... I honestly think they're just avoiding
> doing the work. I'd love to see a simple benchmark done just by recompiling
> without any work on the source code. To me, it doesn't seem like a lot. But
> apparently in the free software world, you're not allowed to ask for things.
>
> --
> It only took 15 years for me to get a sig... to shamelessly promote my
> podcast. http://www.valuecube.com
>
> Aug 14, 2010 11:17:48 PM, 
> [email protected]<quackle%40yahoogroups.com>wrote:
>
> ===========================================
>
>
> It's impossible to make a generalization about the performance
> characteristics of 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs. It is not true,
> for exampe, that 64-bit programs can be expected to be twice as
> fast because there are twice as many bits. I could explain why
> this is, but the explanation is pretty technical. But just trust
> me, it doesn't work that way. In fact, depending upon the nature
> of how a given program works, it's actually possible for a 64-bit
> version to be *slower* than a 32-bit version, all other things
> being equal.
>
> There is only one true generalization one can make about 64-bit
> programs, and that is that they are capable of accessing far more
> memory than 32-bit programs. This can be very important for
> certain high-performance computing applications that deal with
> large amounts of data, but that does not describe Quackle.
>
> So, there may or may not be a performance increase associated with
> compiling Quackle under 64-bit Windows. If there is, I suspect it's
> comparatively small, but that's a guess. Assuming that Win64 Qt
> builds without much difficulty, it probably would be easy for me
> to test, but I just don't have the time right now. I'm absolutely
> saturated.
>
> As for the Linux issues, perhaps the easier route would be to install
> 32-bit compatibility libraries. Ubuntu doesn't include them by
> default, but you can install them, which will enable all manner of
> 32-bit Linux binaries to work without a problem. I'm sorry...I
> don't know off the top of my head exactly what the name of the
> 32-bit ccompatibility package is, but I know for certain that it
> exists.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Fultz
> [email protected] <jfultz%40wolfram.com>
>
> > Is there a 64-bit Windows version? Is there a performance increase
> > associated with moving to 64-bit?
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Sent from my Palm Pre
> > On Aug 14, 2010 8:14 PM, caughran40 
> > &lt;[email protected]<caughranJim%40gmail.com>&gt;
> wrote:
> >
> > The debian package at http://quackle.poslfit.com/ won't install under
> > Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit. "Wrong version," it says. Is this just a question of
> > recompiling?
> >
> >
> >
> > The windows package does install under Win7 64-bit, which runs in a
> > virtual machine under Ubuntu, so I'm not totally deprived.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Caughran
> >
> > caughranjim at gmail com
>
>  
>

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