I don't know why you should think I'm patronizing you, or who else you think 
has 
also been patronizing you.  If it's because my answer doesn't presume a strong 
technical background, I don't know you from Adam, and have no idea what your 
background is in asking your question.  I intended to put forward an honest and 
informative response to your question, based upon my judgment and experience in 
the software development industry.

Instead, you accuse me of a rush to judgment when I explicitly made no claim 
beyond an educated guess.  You imply my lack of time to allocate to the problem 
is due to slothfulness, ignorance or irresponsibility.  And you imply that I am 
somehow suppressing an answer to your question when the source is open and 
anybody is free to attempt the experiment.

That's considerably more than I expected for volunteering 10 minutes to answer 
your question.  It wasn't worth the hassle.

Sincerely,

John Fultz
[email protected]



On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 00:50:05 -0500 (CDT), Andrew Hime wrote:
> Wow. Who dedicated August as "Be Patronizing To Hime Month" and why did
> no one tell me?
>
> I don't know what the minimum system requirements on Windows for Quackle
> are, but it wouldn't shock me if it's compiled as low-level as possible -
> Pentium? Pentium II? As such, I imagine it features zero processor
> optimizations. Consider that AMD64 spec processors almost universally
> include command sets up to SSE3, and with the various number crunching
> going on, I can imagine there is some performance increase, not to
> mention the increased register sizes may be useful.
>
> Most people for some reason are in a rush to claim that there's no
> benefit to switching to 64-bit programs... I honestly think they're just
> avoiding doing the work. I'd love to see a simple benchmark done just by
> recompiling without any work on the source code. To me, it doesn't seem
> like a lot. But apparently in the free software world, you're not allowed
> to ask for things.
>
> --
> It only took 15 years for me to get a sig... to shamelessly promote my
> podcast. http://www.valuecube.com
>
> Aug 14, 2010 11:17:48 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> ===========================================
>
>
> It's impossible to make a generalization about the performance
> characteristics of 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs.  It is not true,
> for exampe, that 64-bit programs can be expected to be twice as
> fast because there are twice as many bits.  I could explain why
> this is, but the explanation is pretty technical.  But just trust
> me, it doesn't work that way.  In fact, depending upon the nature
> of how a given program works, it's actually possible for a 64-bit
> version to be *slower* than a 32-bit version, all other things
> being equal.
>
> There is only one true generalization one can make about 64-bit
> programs, and that is that they are capable of accessing far more
> memory than 32-bit programs.  This can be very important for
> certain high-performance computing applications that deal with
> large amounts of data, but that does not describe Quackle.
>
> So, there may or may not be a performance increase associated with
> compiling Quackle under 64-bit Windows.  If there is, I suspect it's
> comparatively small, but that's a guess.  Assuming that Win64 Qt
> builds without much difficulty, it probably would be easy for me
> to test, but I just don't have the time right now.  I'm absolutely
> saturated.
>
> As for the Linux issues, perhaps the easier route would be to install
> 32-bit compatibility libraries.  Ubuntu doesn't include them by
> default, but you can install them, which will enable all manner of
> 32-bit Linux binaries to work without a problem.  I'm sorry...I
> don't know off the top of my head exactly what the name of the
> 32-bit ccompatibility package is, but I know for certain that it
> exists.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Fultz
> [email protected]
>
>> Is there a 64-bit Windows version? Is there a performance increase
>> associated with moving to 64-bit?
>>
>>
>> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>> On Aug 14, 2010 8:14 PM, caughran40 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The debian package at http://quackle.poslfit.com/ won't install under
>> Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit. "Wrong version," it says. Is this just a question
>> of
>> recompiling?
>>
>>
>> The windows package does install under Win7 64-bit, which runs in a
>> virtual machine under Ubuntu, so I'm not totally deprived.
>>
>>
>> Jim Caughran
>>
>> caughranjim at gmail com
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