Re: [QUAD-L] stem cell research

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Lets be a bit careful here. We all have different beliefs. Roe v Wade didn't create a law, it struck down laws that are unconstitutional. I don't feel that the gov't has the right to tell me and whatever doctor I choose what I can or can not do. I always find it strangely perverse that men seem to want to control women and what they do. Almost every religion grants men authority over women as if it was a birthright. Because every religion sees it as a birthright.   Nobody wants to adopt American children(thank you Oprah and Sally Jessy) Most Asylums and Orphanages have been closed in the past 40 years because of the "stigma" they caused. Now unwanted children are sent to foster homes that have loose oversight and are almost always under funded. Where is that church money? Why isn't it morally important that unwanted children are taken care of.   We are a nation of laws as long as the laws are agreeable with us today. Tomorrow, who knows?  I find it incredibly hypocritical that people would picket and denounce abortion when they have yet to adopt an American child and picket the fertility clinic. To top that off, they are all extreme conservatives that feel they pay too much in taxes. How do we begin funding an extra 1.5 million unwanted children each year? (By the way, that is 5800 abortions each day and that doesn't include holidays when the clinics aren't open)   Some serious problems that won't get better with name calling and really has nothing to do with cloning cells or using human eggs or embryos to cure many of the health problems of people who have been given the gift of life, if not the quality.   If you don't believe that we are here as a result of evolution from lower life forms, then how can you have a faith that says that some cells, visible only under a high powered microscope, constitute a human life?   john In a message dated 5/27/2005 7:43:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny, When a person stands by the morals they believe in, are they the closed minded one? I guess SOME people haven't been paying attention on how easily the activist judges pervert well meaning legistlation. Roe VS Wade: Intent; to make it "LEGAL" for a woman to get an abortion during the "FIRST" Trimester. Activist Judges have: 1) turned a "LAW" into a "RIGHT" illegaly w/o an Amendment 2) extended that "Illegal Right" to minors w/o parental consent 3) now fighting for "partial birth" abortions 4) forced TAXPAYERS to bare the financial burden for approx 1.5 MILLION Abortions each year Child Abuse: has been perverted into parental control by the CPS Can you imagine how far they could pervert cloning? Yes, I agree in stem cell research. No, I'm against human cloning. But the wording of ANY law regarding it must have no loopholes for activist judges. > > At 09:39 AM 5/27/2005, QuadPirate wrote: > >And in America Bush's religeous beliefs are supposed to be in no way > >involved in his decisions as our president, he's supposed to be listening > >to the people not the voices in his head. > > I don't know how you figure that. Everyone makes decisions based on their > own religious or non-religious beliefs. > > So Mark, do you think that any person who has religious beliefs is just > listening to voices in their head or just people who don't agree with you > and your beliefs? > > Jim