Well.... it has nothing to do with the fact that us gimps have our opinions
and won't budge an inch due to our self imposed steel backboned wills.
I'm thinking that Iran is licking it's chops waiting for us to leave AND
the Saudis are shaking in their oil soaked boots. That Persian/Arab
dislike goes WWWWAAAAYYYY back - that's not just 'your grandfather enslaved my
grandfather' mentality - that's some serious old time religion, Hatfield/McCoy
stuff waiting to continue.
another mystery..... the french refer to the size of a hole by it's
circumference rather than it's diameter like the rest of the planet. thus
an 18fr catheter is 6mm in diameter. 'why' is a whole
new question.
dave
In a message dated 6/20/2006 8:48:48 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Strange thing freedom,
You can't give it away. S.korea isn't costing us 7000 casualties and 150
billion dollars a year with no potential of working out. S. korea actually
wanted us and fought shoulder to shoulder with us. Vietname was morally wrong
to get involved in. Gulf of tonkin ws a lie.
Leaving iraq has a positive side to it once you get into reality and stop
thinking they love us. First off, it goes into a shiite sunni civil war that
draws persians against arabs. This gets nasty real fast and remember osama, he
is a sunni sitting in the middle of shiites.(thats why he got upset with
zarqawi for bombing shiite mosques). While this is happening our special
forces ghacve a chance to get serious work done, ie. iran. I personnally dont
care about saudi Arabia and the rest of them, they areen't our friends they
are the insurgents. Perpetuating a bad position isn't cutting and running Mr
Custer.
Not cut and run, engage and manuvre.Who wants to be the last person
to get die Because the C.O. wants to be loved
john
In a message dated 6/17/2006 2:39:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Strange thing Freedom....
Once one gets a taste, it's more addictive to one's soul than
drugs..... to those who didn't grow up in it through the selfless sacrifices
of their ancestors.... Peolpe forget how many years we stayed in
Germany and Japan, and we're STILL in S. Korea.
But we now here BS about "quagmire", calling sophmoric degradidations
torture, claiming we're worse than the beheaders and real torturers and
comparisons to Vietnam, while all the positive news is ignored, like "women
voting and holding office in an Arab country (that's 2 now).
We gave into liberal propaganda (speaking of the majority of public
support) during Vietnam, {1] when the "Useful Idiots" like hanoi jane and
komrade kerry decieved America, we created "no fire zones etc, which
eliminated any chance of victory and signed a cease fire agreement.
When the North Vietnamese violated the Cease fire Agreement, the
Democratic leadership faulted on our promise and over a million civilians
were slaughtered in Vietnam and Cambodia as the "Peacful Communists"
(according to the "Useful Idiots") took them over.
A new generation,
unaware of the truth that the "Useful Idiots" caused, are now bombarded by
the same style propaganda, and bin hidden is counting on them just like Ho
Chi Mein did.
[1] This was not the only problem, as then, like now,
"politicians" thought they were better qualified to run the war.
The TERRORISTS (I refuse to call foriegn suicide bombers "insurgents")
are fighting to PREVENT stability and hope to start civil war, BUT THE
IRAQI's ARE NOW TELLING US WHO THEY ARE and where they're hiding.
The only hope we have of a long term solution is proving the Terrorists
wrong by exposing the people to the truth.
Presently the "Hate Bush " first crowd is muddying that water of hope
by aiding with propaganda that America is Bad and blowing things out of
proportion instead of waiting for the truth to come out.
I met a new para a couple of weeks ago at the Hines VA SCI unit, who
was sorry he couldn't go back to fight in Iraq.
Doesn't sound like a bad guy to me. But it does make this an SCI
topic.
Stunt
On 6/15/06, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
|
It's going to be real interesting to see how they use
their Freedom, I just hope we're not building the
largest Terrorist Army in the Middle East.
Mark
-------Original Message-------
Date: 06/15/06
16:50:59
Subject: Re:
[QUAD-L] MSNBC.com Article: Avoiding attacking suspected terrorist
master...
According to the History channel, that was a 'pay-back' to
Russia for supporting the commies in Viet Nam. I love seeing
how all this intertwined crap eventually comes back to bite one on
his flap surgery spot. I sure hope the Iraqis use their new
freedom and power to smite their fellow towel-heads instead of
turning on us. Possibly if Isreal would help the Iraqis, they
could protect their own future a bit too. Who knows?
Dave
In a message dated 6/15/2006 2:09:01 P.M. US Mountain Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
Think about this for a second, we are now helping a
country build an army that we might very well be fighting in
the future.
Real Smart thinking!
Don't forget we helped Osama defeat the Soviet
Union.
Mark
-------Original Message-------
Date:
06/15/06 13:50:01
Subject:
Re: [QUAD-L] MSNBC.com Article: Avoiding attacking suspected
terrorist master...
Exactly Dave!
Killing any of them is not going to change the fact that
we are dealing with people that ultimately want infidels
dead and off their holy land. I see that many people
think we Americans are trying to help the iraqi people, but
ultimatly, we are sending our soldiers to die and be
mutilated. When I see American politicians talking about
agreements with Saudis, Kuwaitis, Egyptians, iraqis and
Jordanians, I get a sinking feeling in my heart.
These people want our money so they can kill us for
having troops in their holy lands. It doesn't matter if we had
the most noble reason for going their. We shouldn't go their!
The Israelis will never find peace there, only periods
when the killing subsides.
I'm all for having a special
part of the CIA and special forces to deal with wahabbists
that are planning and plotting against the US. If we
had done nothing when Saddam grabbed Kuwait, he would have
been stuck the arab world and the wahabbists against him. We
would be having gas wars again so the Saudis and Iraq could
finance their paranoia. Saddam would have most likely been
asasinated by now and his idiot sons would be trying another
war against Iran. We could have been sitting in the easy seat
pulling strings and wahabbist palestinians would be blowing
themselves up in Tehran and Bagdad. The twin towers would
still be standing and our soldiers would still be alive.
I'm so tired of people that think this is a
liberral/conservative issue.
Stunt, you mentioned a "pact" between FDR and the king of
Saudi Arabia in 44. FDR promised not to back a jewish homeland
in palestine if the Saudi's wouldn't nationalize the Aramco
wells.
john
In a message dated 6/13/2006 5:49:34 PM Eastern Daylight
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Hi Stunt,
Everyone should Google 'Wahhabi' and
read about what the enemy is teaching in the Mosques and
schools in the Islamic World.
With
Love,
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years
Post
Texas, USA
How many Americans know that FDR was the
one who made the pact with
the Royal Saudi family? Every
President since has honored it.
Forget the
PROPAGANDA!
This new round was designed to undermine the
victory of taking out
Zarquwi, nothing more. The so called
"Progressive Liberal" media hates
President Bush so much,
that they "feel" compelled to dig up old BS
just to try to
take away from the taking out of a brutal butcher who
was
doing everything he could to try to start a civil war.
We
"Gave Peace a chance", and 9/11 was our reward.
WAKE
UP!
Stunt
On 6/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
>
> The 1st gulf war caused all the
ensueing problems. Why did we go there? We
> were
mercenairies for the Saudis and kuwaitis. We even made a
profit on the
> 1st gulf war? Why wasn't that profit
shared with the troops that fought?
> Because it was
wrong! The Bush family has a strange way of picking
friends
> and destroying friendships. Sure wish they had
some love for all the
> American families they have
harmed. Stop living in the past and start paying
>
attention to the truth. Saudis and kuwaitis hate our guts.
With careful
> foriegn policy, so does most of the
world!
>
> john
>
> In a message dated
6/9/2006 12:23:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> An article
from 2004? Stop living in the past. Do you want to dig up
every
> article that talks about what if the Clinton
administration had attacked
> Osama bin Laden when it
had a chance then all the thousands of deaths that
>
happened since could have been avoided. Sept 11, 2001 would
not have
> happened if the Clinton administration had
acted after the first WTC attack,
> the USS Cole attack,
the US embassies attacked.
>
> At 06:14 PM
6/8/2006, River Wolfe wrote:
> Avoiding attacking
suspected terrorist mastermind
> The Bush
administration had several chances to attack and destroy
a
> suspected terrorist operation with ties to al-Qaida
but never pulled
> the trigger._ NBC's Jim Miklaszewski
reports.
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/from/ET/
>
|
|
|
|
|
|
