Speaking of things legal..... I was asked by the city 'fathers' to take  down 
my website  (  _old Glendale Commission on  Persons With Disabilities 
(GCOPD)_ (http://ocgrands.com/gcopd/index-old.html)  )  where I had pictures of 
local 
 voting places and described the shortfalls in regards to handicapped  
accessibility that we the mayor's commission on persons with disabilities were  
chartered to inspect.  They claimed it was 'improper' to put city oriented  
research and info on a private website and could possibly lead to legal  
implications.  When my district representative called, she wondered why we  
were doing 
that activity anyway.  Talk about the left hand not knowing what  the right 
hand 
is doing.... then cloaking it all in legaleeze mumbo jumbo.
Dave
 
 
In a message dated 10/1/2007 10:08:17 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
I've  been on two commitees to design and build housing locally for 
handicapped  people. One thing I learned was handicapped people are hard on 
bathroom  
floors. If you treat the entire bathroom like its the floor of the shower,  
cleanups and mildew are much simpler to handle. It's expensive at 1st, but you  
save big on disasters that you don't have. 
 
Extreme  home makeovers have products they want to sell. Disability products 
are such a  small part of the remodeling market, I'd rather bet on getting 
struck by  lightening on a sunny day. I'd be happy to live in an apartment that 
I 
helped  get built but somehow, being on the commitee would make my living 
there a  conflict of interest. 
 
The  first handicapped accesible section 8 apartments I worked on are now 
filthy  slums where the term disability was twisted to mean alcoholic and drug 
addict.  On my last visit there were no machines in the laundry room. they had 
been  sold by a tennant that was mentally ill. The building security system no  
longer existed and the entire first floor was being run by a pimp. The city  
claimed they spent 20g a year on security. You guessed it, the pimp got 20g a  
year. The city has since sold it to a judge. (the uncle of the pimp)
 
The  second building I worked on was to be run by local presbytery under 
Bush's  plan to let charities take over things the gov't sucks at. That is 
suspended  untill the federal gov't finds money it isn't sending to Iraq. Sure 
feel 
bad  for the crippled soldiers coming back.

I'm trying to get the city  interested in a building strictly for spinal cord 
injuries that require  wheelchairs but no takers yet. As one councilman said, 
"we already have all  the good parking places!"
 
Where  ever you're at, don't give up. Remember, Only lawyers believe lawyers 
are  needed. Keep them out. They are put on earth to make sure we all believe 
in  hell.
 
good  luck,
john 
 
 
-----  Original Message ----
From: Nichole Rohling  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;  Quadlist <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007  12:05:51 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower

DO YOU LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY? MAYBE THEY WOULD  DO THIS ON EXTREME HOME 
MAKEOVER.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: _John S._ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
To: _Tim Thompson_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  ;  _Nichole  Rohling_ 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:29  AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in  shower



You  really do need a shower chair, but I found these bathrooms need a copper 
 subfloor with a special tile that drains to a universal drain in the  
bathroom. The tile has microgrooves to direct the water to the drain and  
theres 
very little tilt. The copper subfloor is needed because  anything  you do may 
fail in one or more places and the copper can also  be designed to drain. I 
like 
putting a heated cement subfloor below the  copper. Along with a vent fan the 
bathroom needs a small fan stirring the  air for about 10 minutes after you 
leave it. It should be set to turn on  every 12 hours if its not used. This 
helps stop mold and mildew from  forming.
 
john


-----  Original Message ----
From: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September  30, 2007 9:16:11 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in  shower

Ha ha,
You need a SHOWER CHAIR.
And no, they're not elec.
stunt



On 9/30/07, Nichole  Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote:  
 
The only problem is me and my electric chair  together weigh over 400 lbs. I 
have mirrors in my corner shower so I  can wheel in at an angle and fix my 
hair and I turn sideways to put on my  make-up - I don't think fiberglass or 
pre-fab could hold the weight  without it eventually cracking. i'd like to pour 
concrete and have my  entire bathroom concrete 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: _RONALD L PRACHT _ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected])  
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007  10:40 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] About the roll in  shower


Hey,
When I was trying to get my roll-in done I discovered a few things.  Home 
Depot and Lowes have catalogs with various types of pre-made i  believe 
fiberless 
roll in showers that can be ordered through them.  

My x gf had one put one in and it was pretty easy to install.  All you do is 
build a stud(2x4) frame the size of the insert  and slide the insert in. 
 
One prob was there was still a small lip to get over to get in  shower. This 
could be solved by dropping the floor height where the  insert is to be 
installed by 3/4 inch then it would be an even entrance  pretty much. Just make 
sure 
you get a big enough shower. 
 
ron  c7 











 
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