Every time I have any procedure done my insurance company sends me an EOB, 
Explanation Of Benefits, that I usually read very closely even though I know 
everything has been covered.

What has always made me furious is to see that a hospital, lab, doctor, etc. 
charges the allowable Medicare amount.  BUT because of contracts the provider 
accepts the amount or percentage my insurance company agrees to pay for the 
service.  This amount is very often approximately 10-15% of the amount charged. 
 And this is the amount the doctor, lab or hospital considers acceptable for 
the services rendered.

When I have a surgery with a one-month hospital stay and a hospital bill over 
$130,000 BUT the hospital was willing to accept $40,000, that tells me there's 
something wrong with our system!  If I didn't have insurance I would be 
expected --no, *required*-- to pay the full amount.  Medicare pays the full 
amount.  But the hospital is simply gouging private payers and the Medicare 
system simply because it can.

If a doctor is willing to accept 10% of what he/she charges, then THAT should 
be the amount he/she actually charges regardless of insurance, Medicare, or 
private pay.  Otherwise, the only other explanation is that medical 
institutions are using private payers and Medicare to supplement that which 
they lose through contracting with insurance companies.

Our health care system in the US would not be in nearly the trouble it is if 
the TRUE cost of services is being charged to those who need it.  Also, those 
individuals without health insurance would be charged the TRUE amounts and 
would not be required to go bankrupt or pile mortgages on top of mortgages in 
order to cover themselves in a catastrophic incident.

Just my opinion... so far very few have been able to argue convincingly to 
point out major problems in this point of view.

Best regards All,
--Tod

---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>  
>  
> Back in the 1960s, Claude Castonguay chaired a Canadian government committee  
> studying health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec — 
> then  the largest and most affluent in the country — adopt 
> government-administered  health care, covering all citizens through tax 
> levies.  
> The government followed his advice, leading to his modern-day moniker: "the  
> father of Quebec medicare." Even this title seems modest; Castonguay's work  
> triggered a domino effect across the country, until eventually his ideas were 
>  
> implemented from coast to coast.  
> Four decades later, as the chairman of a government committee reviewing  
> Quebec health care this year, Castonguay concluded that the system is in  
> "crisis." 
> "We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or  
> injecting massive amounts of new money into it," says Castonguay. But now he  
> prescribes a radical overhaul: "We are proposing to give a greater role to 
> the 
>  private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice." 
> _Canadian-Health-Care_ 
> (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=299282509335931) 
>  
> Einstein once said The height of insanity is doing  the same thing over and 
> over again and expecting different results. 
>  
> Both the Canadian and the British national health care systems are  literally 
> medical disasters--and also monetary black holes.
> Plus they are losing all of their finest doctors who don't want to  work for 
> peanuts.
> Those who can afford it, seek medical care out of  country.
>  
> The US life expectancy just increased to 78 years; Canada's fell to  75 years 
> and Britain's to 73 years.
> Does this not tell you that we are doing something  right?
> 
>  
>  
> In a message dated 6/27/2008 9:35:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>  
>  Bad news for persons with  disabilities and elderly.
>  
> In July 1, doctors will get a 10 percent payment cut, a disaster for  both 
> patients and doctors that the bill would have averted. None of the  senators' 
> excuses for this vote hold  water:
> 
> The bill was a partisan exercise. Not so. The bill passed 355 to 59, a  
> veto-proof majority, in the House of Representatives. More Republicans voted  
> for 
> HR. 6331 than against  it.             
> President Bush would have vetoed it anyway. So what? If enough Republican  
> senators put the interests of people with Medicare ahead of their loyalty to  
> President Bush, there would have been enough votes to override a veto in the  
> Senate.   
> 
> Senators will be back home attending fundraisers and marching in  
> Independence Day parades. We need to tell them to show a little more  
> independence from 
> President Bush and a little more backbone to the insurance  company 
> lobbyists. 
> Medicare belongs to the American people. It is not a racket  for the 
> insurance 
>  industry. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Asclepios
> Your Weekly Medicare Consumer Advocacy Update
> 
> 
> Medicare  Racketeers
> 
> June 27, 2008; Volume 8, Issue  26
> 
> The Medicare  bill defeated in the Senate last night would have improved 
> coverage for mental  health and preventive services and helped pay medical 
> and 
> drug costs for more  people with Medicare living on fixed incomes. The Bush 
> administration objected  to these improvements, which were paid for with a 
> modest 
> cut to some of the  excessive subsidies Medicare pays to insurance companies. 
> Administration  officials opposed this reduction in subsidies, they claim, 
> because it would  result in reduced benefits for people with Medicare 
> enrolled in 
> private health  plans offered by these companies. 
> 
> Translation: No one gets better Medicare benefits unless our pals in the  
> insurance industry get a cut off the top.
> 
> It's as if the Medicare program had been taken over by Mafia  goons.
> 
> Numerous independent, nonpartisan  studies have shown it cost taxpayers 
> substantially more—about $1,000 a head,  according to one study—to provide 
> coverage through a Medicare private health  plan instead of through Original 
> Medicare.
> 
> Just this week, the Government Accountability Office reported that, in  2005, 
> insurance companies pocketed as profit $1.14 billion in subsidies that  the 
> companies had told Medicare would go toward medical benefits. 
> 
> Last night, 39 Republican senators joined President  Bush in opposing HR. 
> 6331, the Medicare Improvements for Patients and  Providers Act. As a result, 
> the 
> benefit improvements in HR. 6331 will not take  effect, and on July 1, 
> doctors will get a 10 percent payment cut, a disaster  for both patients and 
> doctors 
> that the bill would have averted. None of the  senators' excuses for this 
> vote hold water:
> 
> The bill was a partisan  exercise. Not so. The bill passed 355 to 59, a 
> veto-proof majority, in the  House of Representatives. More Republicans voted 
> for 
> HR. 6331 than against  it.            
> President Bush would have  vetoed it anyway. So what? If enough Republican 
> senators put the interests of  people with Medicare ahead of their loyalty to 
> President Bush, there would  have been enough votes to override a veto in the 
> Senate.  
> 
> Next week, these senators will  be back home attending fundraisers and 
> marching in Independence Day parades.  We need to tell them to show a little 
> more 
> independence from President Bush  and a little more backbone to the insurance 
> company lobbyists. Medicare  belongs to the American people. It is not a 
> racket 
> for the insurance industry.  
> 
> 
> Medical Record   
> 
> Senate vote to invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed on HR.  6331 fell 
> short of the 60 votes needed. Yea votes indicate support for passage  of HR. 
> 6331. 
> No votes indicate opposition. Majority Leader Harry Reid,  Democrat of 
> Nevada, voted No to preserve the right to bring the bill up for a  vote again 
> (Roll 
> Call vote on HR. 6331  
> (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=hhKWI5OFLdIPKcJ&s=qtJ3JcMJJbKWJ7MSF&m=guKSIaMVKkL2F&af=y),
>   June 2008).
> 
> "On average, [Medicare  Advantage] organizations' self-reported actual profit 
> margin was 5.1 percent  of total revenue, which is approximately $1.14 
> billion more in profits in 2005  than [Medicare Advantage] organizations 
> projected" 
> ("Medicare Advantage  Organizations: Actual Expenses and Profits Compared to 
> Projections for 2005  
> (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=kkI2JePRKgLWImI&s=qtJ3JcMJJbKWJ7MSF&m=guKSIaMVKkL2F&af=y),"
>   Government Accountability Office, June 
> 2008). 
> 
> "I am an elder advocate with an Area Agency on Aging. Even though several  
> Medicare Advantage plans, including four PFFS plans, are listed as plans  
> accepted in our county, that is actually not the case. Once a beneficiary  
> enrolls 
> in one of these Advantage plans, they find out that providers in this  county 
> actually do not accept the plans. If the beneficiary cannot see a  provider 
> in 
> this county, they are forced to leave the county to find  providers. Some 
> have 
> to drive 50, 100 and 200 miles to see a provider, or get  their 
> prescriptions, because there are no providers in our county who will  accept 
> their plan. 
> Many of these elderly people can't drive because they have  poor eyesight, 
> dementia, etc. These elderly beneficiaries come to our Area  Agency on Aging 
> to get 
> out of these Medicare Advantage plans because the local  hospital and their 
> doctors will not accept the plans" (Story submitted to the  Private Health 
> Plan 
> Monitoring Project  
> (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=ddJOKTNpE9KJK2L&s=qtJ3JcMJJbKWJ7MSF&m=guKSIaMVKkL2F&af=y)
>   from Spencer, Iowa, Medicare Rights Center, 
> April 2007). 
> 
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