wtf am i not pressin the right buttons?

Eric W Rudd
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lori Michaelson 
  To: Tod E. Santee ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] NOT JUST Medicare Racketeers


  BINGO Tod!

  As Medicare is my ONLY insurance ... I see the worst of the worst all the 
time.  Enough to make me puke.  Drs especially are padding their pockets 
HEAVILY with MEDICARE patients.  Vendors take monthy chomps out Medicare for 
medical equipment.  The amount Medicare pays monthly for my alternating 
pressure air mattress (plastic and a pump) is astronomical.

  Why is all this happening so blatantly for any moron to be able to see?  
MEDICARE HAS NO TEETH.  It's Federal - surprise, surprise!  Our g'vmint at it's 
best!  

  It gets worse when it comes to raping Medicare eliglible home health care 
patients (like myself) from what thy ARE eligible for.  I've talked to the 
Medicare Ombudsman (as high as one can get) and even her hands are tied at 
getting the home care problem solved.  

  A sick, sick system.  Drs are becoming millionaires easily now just with 
Medicare patients alone.

  Tod ...I'll tell you more on what I heard abt a Dr's office (here in Tucson 
where you & I live) but I doubt it's "rare."  Not today though.  Gotta go ....

  Lori


  On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Tod E. Santee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Every time I have any procedure done my insurance company sends me an EOB, 
Explanation Of Benefits, that I usually read very closely even though I know 
everything has been covered.

    What has always made me furious is to see that a hospital, lab, doctor, 
etc. charges the allowable Medicare amount.  BUT because of contracts the 
provider accepts the amount or percentage my insurance company agrees to pay 
for the service.  This amount is very often approximately 10-15% of the amount 
charged.  And this is the amount the doctor, lab or hospital considers 
acceptable for the services rendered.

    When I have a surgery with a one-month hospital stay and a hospital bill 
over $130,000 BUT the hospital was willing to accept $40,000, that tells me 
there's something wrong with our system!  If I didn't have insurance I would be 
expected --no, *required*-- to pay the full amount.  Medicare pays the full 
amount.  But the hospital is simply gouging private payers and the Medicare 
system simply because it can.

    If a doctor is willing to accept 10% of what he/she charges, then THAT 
should be the amount he/she actually charges regardless of insurance, Medicare, 
or private pay.  Otherwise, the only other explanation is that medical 
institutions are using private payers and Medicare to supplement that which 
they lose through contracting with insurance companies.

    Our health care system in the US would not be in nearly the trouble it is 
if the TRUE cost of services is being charged to those who need it.  Also, 
those individuals without health insurance would be charged the TRUE amounts 
and would not be required to go bankrupt or pile mortgages on top of mortgages 
in order to cover themselves in a catastrophic incident.

    Just my opinion... so far very few have been able to argue convincingly to 
point out major problems in this point of view.

    Best regards All,
    --Tod

    ---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
    >
    >
    > Back in the 1960s, Claude Castonguay chaired a Canadian government 
committee
    > studying health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec —
    > then  the largest and most affluent in the country — adopt
    > government-administered  health care, covering all citizens through tax 
levies.
    > The government followed his advice, leading to his modern-day moniker: 
"the
    > father of Quebec medicare." Even this title seems modest; Castonguay's 
work
    > triggered a domino effect across the country, until eventually his ideas 
were
    > implemented from coast to coast.
    > Four decades later, as the chairman of a government committee reviewing
    > Quebec health care this year, Castonguay concluded that the system is in
    > "crisis."
    > "We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services 
or
    > injecting massive amounts of new money into it," says Castonguay. But now 
he
    > prescribes a radical overhaul: "We are proposing to give a greater role 
to the
    >  private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice."
    > _Canadian-Health-Care_
    > (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=299282509335931)
    >
    > Einstein once said The height of insanity is doing  the same thing over 
and
    > over again and expecting different results.
    >
    > Both the Canadian and the British national health care systems are  
literally
    > medical disasters--and also monetary black holes.
    > Plus they are losing all of their finest doctors who don't want to  work 
for
    > peanuts.
    > Those who can afford it, seek medical care out of  country.
    >
    > The US life expectancy just increased to 78 years; Canada's fell to  75 
years
    > and Britain's to 73 years.
    > Does this not tell you that we are doing something  right?
    >
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 6/27/2008 9:35:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
    > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
    >
    >
    >  Bad news for persons with  disabilities and elderly.
    >
    > In July 1, doctors will get a 10 percent payment cut, a disaster for  both
    > patients and doctors that the bill would have averted. None of the  
senators'
    > excuses for this vote hold  water:
    >
    > The bill was a partisan exercise. Not so. The bill passed 355 to 59, a
    > veto-proof majority, in the House of Representatives. More Republicans 
voted  for
    > HR. 6331 than against  it.
    > President Bush would have vetoed it anyway. So what? If enough Republican
    > senators put the interests of people with Medicare ahead of their loyalty 
to
    > President Bush, there would have been enough votes to override a veto in 
the
    > Senate.
    >
    > Senators will be back home attending fundraisers and marching in
    > Independence Day parades. We need to tell them to show a little more  
independence from
    > President Bush and a little more backbone to the insurance  company 
lobbyists.
    > Medicare belongs to the American people. It is not a racket  for the 
insurance
    >  industry.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Asclepios
    > Your Weekly Medicare Consumer Advocacy Update
    >
    >
    > Medicare  Racketeers
    >
    > June 27, 2008; Volume 8, Issue  26
    >
    > The Medicare  bill defeated in the Senate last night would have improved
    > coverage for mental  health and preventive services and helped pay 
medical and
    > drug costs for more  people with Medicare living on fixed incomes. The 
Bush
    > administration objected  to these improvements, which were paid for with 
a modest
    > cut to some of the  excessive subsidies Medicare pays to insurance 
companies.
    > Administration  officials opposed this reduction in subsidies, they claim,
    > because it would  result in reduced benefits for people with Medicare 
enrolled in
    > private health  plans offered by these companies.
    >
    > Translation: No one gets better Medicare benefits unless our pals in the
    > insurance industry get a cut off the top.
    >
    > It's as if the Medicare program had been taken over by Mafia  goons.
    >
    > Numerous independent, nonpartisan  studies have shown it cost taxpayers
    > substantially more—about $1,000 a head,  according to one study—to provide
    > coverage through a Medicare private health  plan instead of through 
Original Medicare.
    >
    > Just this week, the Government Accountability Office reported that, in  
2005,
    > insurance companies pocketed as profit $1.14 billion in subsidies that  
the
    > companies had told Medicare would go toward medical benefits.
    >
    > Last night, 39 Republican senators joined President  Bush in opposing HR.
    > 6331, the Medicare Improvements for Patients and  Providers Act. As a 
result, the
    > benefit improvements in HR. 6331 will not take  effect, and on July 1,
    > doctors will get a 10 percent payment cut, a disaster  for both patients 
and doctors
    > that the bill would have averted. None of the  senators' excuses for this
    > vote hold water:
    >
    > The bill was a partisan  exercise. Not so. The bill passed 355 to 59, a
    > veto-proof majority, in the  House of Representatives. More Republicans 
voted for
    > HR. 6331 than against  it.
    > President Bush would have  vetoed it anyway. So what? If enough Republican
    > senators put the interests of  people with Medicare ahead of their 
loyalty to
    > President Bush, there would  have been enough votes to override a veto in 
the
    > Senate.
    >
    > Next week, these senators will  be back home attending fundraisers and
    > marching in Independence Day parades.  We need to tell them to show a 
little more
    > independence from President Bush  and a little more backbone to the 
insurance
    > company lobbyists. Medicare  belongs to the American people. It is not a 
racket
    > for the insurance industry.
    >
    >
    > Medical Record
    >
    > Senate vote to invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed on HR.  6331 fell
    > short of the 60 votes needed. Yea votes indicate support for passage  of 
HR. 6331.
    > No votes indicate opposition. Majority Leader Harry Reid,  Democrat of
    > Nevada, voted No to preserve the right to bring the bill up for a  vote 
again (Roll
    > Call vote on HR. 6331
    > 
(http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=hhKWI5OFLdIPKcJ&s=qtJ3JcMJJbKWJ7MSF&m=guKSIaMVKkL2F&af=y),
  June 2008).
    >
    > "On average, [Medicare  Advantage] organizations' self-reported actual 
profit
    > margin was 5.1 percent  of total revenue, which is approximately $1.14
    > billion more in profits in 2005  than [Medicare Advantage] organizations 
projected"
    > ("Medicare Advantage  Organizations: Actual Expenses and Profits Compared 
to
    > Projections for 2005
    > 
(http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=kkI2JePRKgLWImI&s=qtJ3JcMJJbKWJ7MSF&m=guKSIaMVKkL2F&af=y),"
  Government Accountability Office, June
    > 2008).
    >
    > "I am an elder advocate with an Area Agency on Aging. Even though several
    > Medicare Advantage plans, including four PFFS plans, are listed as plans
    > accepted in our county, that is actually not the case. Once a beneficiary 
 enrolls
    > in one of these Advantage plans, they find out that providers in this  
county
    > actually do not accept the plans. If the beneficiary cannot see a  
provider in
    > this county, they are forced to leave the county to find  providers. Some 
have
    > to drive 50, 100 and 200 miles to see a provider, or get  their
    > prescriptions, because there are no providers in our county who will  
accept their plan.
    > Many of these elderly people can't drive because they have  poor eyesight,
    > dementia, etc. These elderly beneficiaries come to our Area  Agency on 
Aging to get
    > out of these Medicare Advantage plans because the local  hospital and 
their
    > doctors will not accept the plans" (Story submitted to the  Private 
Health Plan
    > Monitoring Project
    > 
(http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=ddJOKTNpE9KJK2L&s=qtJ3JcMJJbKWJ7MSF&m=guKSIaMVKkL2F&af=y)
  from Spencer, Iowa, Medicare Rights Center,
    > April 2007).
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  -- 
  Lori 
  C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post
  Tucson, AZ 

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