Jenny, Canada is so cold, they have to do something right to get people to  
visit, lol.  I'm sure that the populated areas of Canada are W/C Friendly  but 
I wouldn't place any bets on many of the remote areas where "Da Bears"  live.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/28/2008 2:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I've  heard the same thing about Canada. They have better health care than  
the
US. China traditionally is disrespectful of human rights in general, so  
they're
even less considerate of people with disabilities. I wouldn't go or  live 
there-
anyone could be murdered and there wouldn't even be a trial.  They try to 
create
an image of embracing all people at the Olympics, but  I've read that prior to
the Olympics they were suppressing all sorts of  uprising among the people
there. Not to say that things are great in the  US. There are definitely
improvements needed in terms of accessibility and  respect, but it is better
here than most third-world countries.  

Best,

Jenny

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 08:21 PM Dan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Thirty years ago - God how time  flies!, My family and I took a trip to 
eastern
Canada and we were amazed at  how accessible everything was. - and they were
surprised that we were  surprised. They said their country had made a 
commitment
years prior to  make everything as accessible as possible. And I've heard that
Toronto is  very wheelchair friendly. 
>
>Dan  
>
>At 03:12  PM 8/27/2008 -0700, David O'Connell said something that elicited  
my
response:
>  
>>Arizona is pretty good - in the  city.
>>AZDAVE
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Aug 27,  2008 at 2:04 PM,  Merrill
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>Accessibility is usually taken for  granted in the U. S. until a curb us
incontinently not cut away.  It  is also true third world countries' disabled
seldom do live any sort of  life for a short time.  Even here in the U.S.
approximately decades  ago, before SCI research and rebilitation, life
expectancy was not  long.  
>>>
>>>I loved my days living in Germany  but even there getting around is not
possible.  I would like to know  if anyone can suggest another area as is the
U.S. were accessibility is  more the rule than exception.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>Merrill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>----------
>>>From: John S.  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 27,  2008 11:12 AM
>>>To:  <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or  MemorX
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>I know  it is hard for many quads to accept that a very large part of  our
population also feels we are a waste of space. I have run into more  than a 
few
people that completely resent wheelchair signs and feel we are  an unnessicary
burden on society. They don't say it to our faces but they  vote it in 
congress
and state legislatures. If we don't look out our civil  rights can go the way 
of
crippled children in China. Don't kid yourself,  the safety net is threadbare
and people are falling through everyday. I'm  not saying y'all have to be a
socialist, but please go out and remind  people we are an asset, not an 
anchor. 
>>>
>>>Prior  to Johnson's great society there were very few quads living more 
than
a  year or two. By 1965 there were no quads alive from injuries in WW2. Now  
many
of us live as long as we have access to medical facilities. there are  12 
major
hospitals in the county I live in, yet I can only go to one  because of my
insurance status. I use to be welcome at all.  
>>>I use to think us quads knew what side of the bread the butter  is on when 
we
vote, but I'm obviously wrong.  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>john
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>----- Original Message  ----
>>>From: andrea murray  
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To:  <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>Sent:  Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:08:04 PM
>>>Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L]  Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or  MemorX
>>>
>>>
>>>OK That explains it.  When I was in college I had a Chines student for a 
room
mate. She told my  other room mate that I should of been dead, right in front 
of
me. I guess  over in China being disable is a death  sentence.
>>>
>>>WW
>>>--- On Tue,  8/26/08,  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:  
>>>From:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or MemorX  
>>>To:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]  
>>>Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:57 PM 
>>>I  believe its safe to say that since China was the host of the Olympics,  
the
dancers were Chinese. 
>>>I personally wish that I could  review the closing dance act, for myself. 
Since Great Britain is the next  host of the summer Olympics, they are faced
with explaining the  questionable issue in China's closing ceremony. 
>>>   
>>>Best Wishes 
>>>  
>>>In a  message dated 8/26/2008 2:17:54 P.M. Central Daylight  Time,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  
>>>How could that happen. Where were the wheelchair dancers  from.  
>>>WW
>>>
>>>--- On Tue,  8/26/08,  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>From:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or MemorX  
>>>To:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]  
>>>Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 2:51 PM 
>>>Yes it  was amazing.  Butt and the big but was some concern as to whether  
the
performer was truly a wheelchair user, according to the British  Press.  What
did you think? 
>>>   
>>>Best Wishes 
>>>  
>>>In a  message dated 8/26/2008 1:20:24 P.M. Central Daylight  Time,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  
>>>Did anyone notice the wheelchair participants in the dance  skit from 
London
during the closing ceremony? 
>>>   
>>>One girl got up from the chair walked toward the bus, climbed  on, gyrated 
on
the scenery, climbed down, walked back to the chair and sat  down.  
>>>  
>>>f*ing amazing.  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>Don't let what  you cannot do interfere with what you can do! 
>>>   
>>>Billy  
>>><http://www.langfoundation.org/>www.langfoundation.org  
>>>
>>>
>>>
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