Lori, you always remind me of one of my all time favorite songs...."Your A Native New Yorker" Glad to read that you are both warm and comfortable. Now stick a cactus up your butt, lol. I'm jealous of you when its snows here. Best Wishes In a message dated 8/28/2008 6:05:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I hear you, W ... New York State was bad enough as far as being so cold and, therefore, my quality of life as far as pain directly from the cold was terrible. "Adding clothes" did NOT help. Or blankets. Been in Tucson, Arizona now for seven years and everything is accessible. We even live on the outskirts but I have never had so much independence via going out my front door and down the road or sidewalk and going on and on for miles and miles in a safe atmosphere, warmth, and gorgeous mountain views in all directions and sunsets that probably only New Mexico and some islands have! Our neighborhood is very, very, peaceful and quiet and people keep to themselves yet are very friendly. Just a word from my current surroundings. I don't miss upstate New York at all! But I spent 35 of my 44 years of there and did not know anything different. So, like people who have been born in Canada and know nothing different... they just get used to the cold. Been there, done that but not in Canada! Lori Michaelson Age - 44 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: Jenny, Canada is so cold, they have to do something right to get people to visit, lol. I'm sure that the populated areas of Canada are W/C Friendly but I wouldn't place any bets on many of the remote areas where "Da Bears" live. Best Wishes In a message dated 8/28/2008 2:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: I've heard the same thing about Canada. They have better health care than the US. China traditionally is disrespectful of human rights in general, so they're even less considerate of people with disabilities. I wouldn't go or live there- anyone could be murdered and there wouldn't even be a trial. They try to create an image of embracing all people at the Olympics, but I've read that prior to the Olympics they were suppressing all sorts of uprising among the people there. Not to say that things are great in the US. There are definitely improvements needed in terms of accessibility and respect, but it is better here than most third-world countries. Best, Jenny On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 08:21 PM Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > >Thirty years ago - God how time flies!, My family and I took a trip to eastern Canada and we were amazed at how accessible everything was. - and they were surprised that we were surprised. They said their country had made a commitment years prior to make everything as accessible as possible. And I've heard that Toronto is very wheelchair friendly. > >Dan > >At 03:12 PM 8/27/2008 -0700, David O'Connell said something that elicited my response: > >>Arizona is pretty good - in the city. >>AZDAVE >> >> >>On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Merrill <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: >>> >>>Accessibility is usually taken for granted in the U. S. until a curb us incontinently not cut away. It is also true third world countries' disabled seldom do live any sort of life for a short time. Even here in the U.S. approximately decades ago, before SCI research and rebilitation, life expectancy was not long. >>> >>>I loved my days living in Germany but even there getting around is not possible. I would like to know if anyone can suggest another area as is the U.S. were accessibility is more the rule than exception. >>> >>> >>> >>>Merrill >>> >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ] >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:12 AM >>>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected]) >>>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or MemorX >>> >>> >>> >>>I know it is hard for many quads to accept that a very large part of our population also feels we are a waste of space. I have run into more than a few people that completely resent wheelchair signs and feel we are an unnessicary burden on society. They don't say it to our faces but they vote it in congress and state legislatures. If we don't look out our civil rights can go the way of crippled children in China. Don't kid yourself, the safety net is threadbare and people are falling through everyday. I'm not saying y'all have to be a socialist, but please go out and remind people we are an asset, not an anchor. >>> >>>Prior to Johnson's great society there were very few quads living more than a year or two. By 1965 there were no quads alive from injuries in WW2. Now many of us live as long as we have access to medical facilities. there are 12 major hospitals in the county I live in, yet I can only go to one because of my insurance status. I use to be welcome at all. >>>I use to think us quads knew what side of the bread the butter is on when we vote, but I'm obviously wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>>john >>> >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ---- >>>From: andrea murray <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:emm [EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >>>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected]) >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:08:04 PM >>>Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or MemorX >>> >>> >>>OK That explains it. When I was in college I had a Chines student for a room mate. She told my other room mate that I should of been dead, right in front of me. I guess over in China being disable is a death sentence. >>> >>>WW >>>--- On Tue, 8/26/08, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: >>>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or MemorX >>>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected]) >>>Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:57 PM >>>I believe its safe to say that since China was the host of the Olympics, the dancers were Chinese. >>>I personally wish that I could review the closing dance act, for myself. Since Great Britain is the next host of the summer Olympics, they are faced with explaining the questionable issue in China's closing ceremony. >>> >>>Best Wishes >>> >>>In a message dated 8/26/2008 2:17:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: >>>How could that happen. Where were the wheelchair dancers from. >>>WW >>> >>>--- On Tue, 8/26/08, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: >>> >>>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or MemorX >>>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[email protected]) >>>Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 2:51 PM >>>Yes it was amazing. Butt and the big but was some concern as to whether the performer was truly a wheelchair user, according to the British Press. What did you think? >>> >>>Best Wishes >>> >>>In a message dated 8/26/2008 1:20:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: >>>Did anyone notice the wheelchair participants in the dance skit from London during the closing ceremony? >>> >>>One girl got up from the chair walked toward the bus, climbed on, gyrated on the scenery, climbed down, walked back to the chair and sat down. >>> >>>f*ing amazing. >>> >>> >>>Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! >>> >>>Billy >>><_http://www.langfoundation.org/_ (http://www.langfoundation.org/) >_www.langfoundation.org_ (http://www.langfoundation.org/) >>> >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal <_http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047_ (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) >here. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal <_http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047_ (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) >here. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>AZDAVE @ <_http://DAVEOCONNELL.COM_ (http://daveoconnell.com/) >_DAVEOCONNELL.COM_ (http://daveoconnell.com/) ____________________________________ It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal _here_ (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) . -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post Tucson, AZ **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
