True, true, true, W. I'm forgetting the wrath of nature and wild life!

Best,

Jenny

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 03:09 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>Jenny, Canada is so cold, they have to do something right to get people to  
>visit, lol.  I'm sure that the populated areas of Canada are W/C Friendly  but 
>I wouldn't place any bets on many of the remote areas where "Da Bears"  live.
> 
>Best Wishes
> 
> 
> 
>In a message dated 8/28/2008 2:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>I've  heard the same thing about Canada. They have better health care than  
>the
>US. China traditionally is disrespectful of human rights in general, so  
>they're
>even less considerate of people with disabilities. I wouldn't go or  live 
>there-
>anyone could be murdered and there wouldn't even be a trial.  They try to 
>create
>an image of embracing all people at the Olympics, but  I've read that prior to
>the Olympics they were suppressing all sorts of  uprising among the people
>there. Not to say that things are great in the  US. There are definitely
>improvements needed in terms of accessibility and  respect, but it is better
>here than most third-world countries.  
>
>Best,
>
>Jenny
>
>On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 08:21 PM Dan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>Thirty years ago - God how time  flies!, My family and I took a trip to 
>eastern
>Canada and we were amazed at  how accessible everything was. - and they were
>surprised that we were  surprised. They said their country had made a 
>commitment
>years prior to  make everything as accessible as possible. And I've heard that
>Toronto is  very wheelchair friendly. 
>>
>>Dan  
>>
>>At 03:12  PM 8/27/2008 -0700, David O'Connell said something that elicited  
>my
>response:
>>  
>>>Arizona is pretty good - in the  city.
>>>AZDAVE
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Aug 27,  2008 at 2:04 PM,  Merrill
><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Accessibility is usually taken for  granted in the U. S. until a curb us
>incontinently not cut away.  It  is also true third world countries' disabled
>seldom do live any sort of  life for a short time.  Even here in the U.S.
>approximately decades  ago, before SCI research and rebilitation, life
>expectancy was not  long.  
>>>>
>>>>I loved my days living in Germany  but even there getting around is not
>possible.  I would like to know  if anyone can suggest another area as is the
>U.S. were accessibility is  more the rule than exception.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>Merrill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>----------
>>>>From: John S.  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 27,  2008 11:12 AM
>>>>To:  <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or  MemorX
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>I know  it is hard for many quads to accept that a very large part of  our
>population also feels we are a waste of space. I have run into more  than a 
>few
>people that completely resent wheelchair signs and feel we are  an unnessicary
>burden on society. They don't say it to our faces but they  vote it in 
>congress
>and state legislatures. If we don't look out our civil  rights can go the way 
>of
>crippled children in China. Don't kid yourself,  the safety net is threadbare
>and people are falling through everyday. I'm  not saying y'all have to be a
>socialist, but please go out and remind  people we are an asset, not an 
>anchor. 
>>>>
>>>>Prior  to Johnson's great society there were very few quads living more 
>than
>a  year or two. By 1965 there were no quads alive from injuries in WW2. Now  
>many
>of us live as long as we have access to medical facilities. there are  12 
>major
>hospitals in the county I live in, yet I can only go to one  because of my
>insurance status. I use to be welcome at all.  
>>>>I use to think us quads knew what side of the bread the butter  is on when 
>we
>vote, but I'm obviously wrong.  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>john
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message  ----
>>>>From: andrea murray  
><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To:  <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>Sent:  Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:08:04 PM
>>>>Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L]  Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or  MemorX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>OK That explains it.  When I was in college I had a Chines student for a 
>room
>mate. She told my  other room mate that I should of been dead, right in front 
>of
>me. I guess  over in China being disable is a death  sentence.
>>>>
>>>>WW
>>>>--- On Tue,  8/26/08,  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:  
>>>>From:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or MemorX  
>>>>To:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]  
>>>>Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:57 PM 
>>>>I  believe its safe to say that since China was the host of the Olympics,  
>the
>dancers were Chinese. 
>>>>I personally wish that I could  review the closing dance act, for myself. 
>Since Great Britain is the next  host of the summer Olympics, they are faced
>with explaining the  questionable issue in China's closing ceremony. 
>>>>   
>>>>Best Wishes 
>>>>  
>>>>In a  message dated 8/26/2008 2:17:54 P.M. Central Daylight  Time,
><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  
>>>>How could that happen. Where were the wheelchair dancers  from.  
>>>>WW
>>>>
>>>>--- On Tue,  8/26/08,  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>From:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Olympics Closing Ceremonies-Real or MemorX  
>>>>To:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]  
>>>>Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 2:51 PM 
>>>>Yes it  was amazing.  Butt and the big but was some concern as to whether  
>the
>performer was truly a wheelchair user, according to the British  Press.  What
>did you think? 
>>>>   
>>>>Best Wishes 
>>>>  
>>>>In a  message dated 8/26/2008 1:20:24 P.M. Central Daylight  Time,
><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  
>>>>Did anyone notice the wheelchair participants in the dance  skit from 
>London
>during the closing ceremony? 
>>>>   
>>>>One girl got up from the chair walked toward the bus, climbed  on, gyrated 
>on
>the scenery, climbed down, walked back to the chair and sat  down.  
>>>>  
>>>>f*ing amazing.  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>Don't let what  you cannot do interfere with what you can do! 
>>>>   
>>>>Billy  
>>>><http://www.langfoundation.org/>www.langfoundation.org  
>>>>
>>>>
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