Hi Dollbug,

First, let me tell you how my heart goes out to you and that its clear you must 
be a wonderful mother.  I am sure your son appreciates your help and sacrifice, 
even if he does not always show it.  We quads can get frustrated sometimes and 
express it as anger.  Best thing you can do is get others to help, so you can 
get a break on a regular basis.

For my first two years (I'm 9 years post, now), I was never able to self-cath, 
but needed to take care of myself, since I had no help most of the day.  I had 
a Supra-Pubic (SP) tube and that helped, since I could empty the bag alone.  
However, I was always warned it was not a permanent solution because it 
increases the chance of bladder cancer.  Aside from that, I had at least 2 
trips to the Emergency Room in full Autonomic Dysreflexia (AD) distress because 
the bladder hole got out-of-line with the outer (skin) hole when trying to 
change the tube, so my helper could not replace the tube.  Not fun.

For that whole two years I also had almost one-long Urinary Tract Infection 
(UTI), despite a wide array of anti-biotics, to the point where they 
red-flagged me (so now I'm *guaranteed* a single in any hospital stay, since 
they condsider me a carrier/threat).  FINALLY, though, a peak with a uroscope 
revealed the *real* carrier was the big ol' Bladder Stones that the UTI 
bacteria had taken to hiding in.

During that time I'd conferred with multiple Urologists about possible 
long-term solutions for dealing with that constant yellow flow.  The guys at 
Boston Medical Center (BMC), a teaching hospital for Boston U. Med school where 
I did my rehab, were hot to "end-run" my bladder with an Ilial (sp?)  Loop  
(IL) procedure, to give me a urinary stoma.  I got a second opinion from a guy 
at Mass General, who agreed it would be a better long-term solution than the SP 
tube, though I should mention that the doctor in charge of rehab at BMC thought 
it was "too radical, tantamount to malpractice."  Nonetheless, I finally opted 
for it.

The morning of the IL operation, the head Urologist asked if I would be having 
my bladder removed (they were already removing my bladder stones).  He said 
that if I did have it removed, then I would almost certainly lose sexual 
function (SURPRISE!!).  I was active (ok, not really *that* active, but active 
nonetheless), so I said leave it.  The operation went well, but they also 
didn't mention the 2+ week hospital stay to recover, the whole time which my 
new stoma bags leaked.  They tried all kinds of adhesives and I tried even more 
after I went home, but none helped until one of the visiting nurses asked if 
I'd tried an ostomy belt.  Sho' nuff, that was the solution!

The belt helped tremendously, but I was still plagued with leaks that should 
not have happened.  I kept asking ostomy suppliers about different options, 
with many failed experiments along the way, until I finally started using 
Torbot Bonding Cement.  The stuff is great!  Most times now, I can go as many 
as 5 days without changing (and without leaks), just flushing the bag (and 
alternating long-term, large-capacity, latex leg-bags I get from Concepts In 
Confidence).  I had other problems, though.

That bladder they left behind was then a closed system (i.e., not getting 
flushed with urine).  Probably because it had been a haven for bacteria for so 
long, it started generating this awful-looking, almost odorless brown gunk, the 
color and consistency of a coffee milkshake.  Eventually, it filled my bladder, 
causing AD and sending me to the ER (where the doctors were fascinated and 
mystified).  After that discovery, I had to cath to drain the gunk about every 
month ...till about another 2 years passed and the gunk had collected and 
(apparently) thickened so much it was not draining.  My old urologist at BMC 
had moved-on and the new one assured me I could still have sexual function if 
he removed the bladder and left a portion of it, a stump.  That did bring 
relief, once more, but sexual function was not what it used to be.  Oh well.

Anyway, yes its been a long road, but I have relatively few incidents (leaks) 
these days and NO UTI's at all.  Can't exactly say, "I love my Stoma," but it 
does work for me now.

Hope that helps,
bob quinn




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From: Dollbug <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:16:53 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Super pubic vs foley or cathing


My 22 year old son, who became a quad about 6 months ago, has had numerous 
issues since initial hospitalization.   The most recurring is UTI and some 
bladder infections.   He was in a hospital and rehab for 3-1/2 months total.   
He had a foley for 2 months initially.   After the 2 months, cathing began 
every 4 hours.   About a month after cathing began he started to urinate 
between caths.   He complained of the mess and they put a Texas catheter on him 
and still cathed every 4 hours.    After about 3 weeks of being at home (I was 
cathing and dealing with the Texas catheter) his penis became quite raw.    
About 3 times more urine coming out of him was going into the catheter bag as 
opposed to cathing.   I asked that a foley be put in due to all this.   A few 
people have told us a super pubic will cause a lot less UTI's and much less 
invasive on the body.   Please share your views on a super pubic versus a foley 
or cathing.   
 
Many thanks for any replies!



      

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