One thing I forgot to mention the first time:   Most people around the world 
seaching for online resources from outside the US would likely be looking for 
"Tetraplegics" not Quad/Quadriplegics... another language barrier we N. 
Americans (mostly) helped create.  :-)

Best!
--Tod


---- Lori Michaelson <[email protected]> wrote: 
> I agree with Tod (below). And now we find that we have some members from
> Jordan, Ethiopia and South America. All of these places are pretty much
> considered third world countries but now we see* they do* have access to
> computers.
> 
> So the with more advanced countries (and there are plenty of them) I would
> certainly think quads from all over would stumble upon this group very much
> like the rest of us did. I know that we are the laughing stock of the world
> as a nation right now but I think a quad would overlook that to be able to
> get more information or share more info about all the problems and solutions
> that we quads share as a whole.
> 
> In the school year of 1994/1995 - we hosted a foreign exchange student from
> Jakarta (Indonesia).  OMG!  The actual city of Jakarta is *very* affluent.
> It is the outline areas/islands of Indonesia that are even worse than third
> world countries. However, that works really well for those living in Jakarta
> because the foreign exchange student we had - his parents hired *a maid, a
> cook, a gardener and a chauffeur* for only about $30 or $40 in American
> money. I can't recall if that was for a week or a month but I am pretty sure
> it was/is for a week. What happens is that so many of the families in
> Jakarta are so well off compared to the outlying areas of Jakarta -- that
> those third world Indonesia country people will do anything to be able to
> move in and live with and do those jobs for so very little money.
> 
> So, when the foreign exchange student came to live with us he was used to
> having their maid fix his breakfast and lunch and dinner and so on and so
> forth. Talk about spoiled! LOL
> 
> His father worked at a very large company - which was also a company that
> worked *with* the United States. I can't recall the name of it.  Grrrrrrrr.
> After the foreign exchange student left - I kept in contact for a little
> while with his father using the father's e-mail at work. But that was almost
> 15 years ago so, I highly doubt they do not have computers in their homes.
> 
> I lost touch with his father and then lost his e-mail or I would certainly
> try talking with him on a semi regular basis. If anything, interested in
> where his son (our foreign exchange student) ended up working, etc.. We
> really, really, really, really enjoyed having him that school year.  I know
> that he went to the University of New Orleans for a couple of years and then
> planned on getting a job with the company that his father works for and, as
> a result, finds jobs for Jakarta students whose parents work at that
> particular company - either in Jakarta over here in the United States.
> 
> Just one example.
> 
> Tod mentioned Australia and, in addition, so very many other places are are
> techno-advanced.  Further, Tod was right about learning English. In so many
> countries English is required in high school or grade school through high
> school. Living near the border here in Tucson Arizona and having a couple of
> home health aides that grew up in Mexico - they have said that English was
> to be taught and learned in school. Of course that is certain areas of
> Mexico but I am talking about plenty of areas!
> 
> In 2006 I began to be interested in digital art and joined an online
> community to share our work. I talk with people all over the world who are
> interested in the same thing and, for the greater part, they all speaking
> English.
> 
> Anyway, I didn't expect anyone to have the answer like I said.   Just
> thought I would bring it up and see what people thought.  It's called the
> World Wide Web for a reason! LOL.
> Lori Michaelson
> Age - 45
> C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
> Tucson, AZ
> 
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Tod E. Santee <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Not many Aussie quads have been here and they don't fit #1 or #2.  And only
> > one person from the UK and one from South Africa (both English-speaking
> > [mostly])...?
> >
> > I think it might be more to do with quads in physical proximity to a
> > computer with internet service.  Without access, no communication.  Many
> > places lack such widespread internet service to homes.  So the
> > infrastructure and culture must support the ability of quads to get to
> > universities.
> >
> > Of university-level students, most have mandatory English language
> > classes... even in China, India and Japan -- 2/5th the world population --
> > but culturally, those with disabilities aren't seen much, they can be quite
> > secluded (many quads in Indonesia, too).
> >
> > I think there are many more reasons than than language and dislike.
> >
> > Best to All,
> > --Tod
> >
> >
> > ---- "John S." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > They mostly do not like Americans, (#1) and they don't speak english with
> > comfort. (#2)
> >
> > john
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Lori Michaelson <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:30:15 PM
> > Subject: [QUAD-L] Where are ALL the quads?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been meaning to bring this up for many moons but whenever I think of
> > it I'm not at the computer or going to the computer to ask.
> >
> > Over 99% of the quads who are on this list, and who have been on this list,
> > are from the United States. We have Shahidul Alam from South America. And
> > Peter from the UK.   And I think there is one other person that I am
> > currently forgetting?
> >
> > But for all the other civilized countries and with the World Wide Web being
> > in almost everyone's homes now -- I wonder why we never hear from any quads
> > from Japan, Scandinavian Countries, so many European countries and so many
> > more? Japan beats us, and almost every other country, in technology but that
> > still leaves a whole big host of many other countries whereby I'm sure there
> > many many more quads.
> >
> > I got on this list in 1995 but I think Jim started it a little before that.
> >
> > Essentially just a rhetorical question that I have always wanted to bring
> > up. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Lori Michaelson
> > Age - 45
> > C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
> > Tucson, AZ 
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