so "we" termed quad?

Eric W Rudd
[email protected]



----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod E. Santee" <[email protected]>
To: "Lori Michaelson" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Where are ALL the quads?


One thing I forgot to mention the first time: Most people around the world seaching for online resources from outside the US would likely be looking for "Tetraplegics" not Quad/Quadriplegics... another language barrier we N. Americans (mostly) helped create. :-)

Best!
--Tod


---- Lori Michaelson <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree with Tod (below). And now we find that we have some members from
Jordan, Ethiopia and South America. All of these places are pretty much
considered third world countries but now we see* they do* have access to
computers.

So the with more advanced countries (and there are plenty of them) I would certainly think quads from all over would stumble upon this group very much like the rest of us did. I know that we are the laughing stock of the world as a nation right now but I think a quad would overlook that to be able to get more information or share more info about all the problems and solutions
that we quads share as a whole.

In the school year of 1994/1995 - we hosted a foreign exchange student from Jakarta (Indonesia). OMG! The actual city of Jakarta is *very* affluent. It is the outline areas/islands of Indonesia that are even worse than third world countries. However, that works really well for those living in Jakarta because the foreign exchange student we had - his parents hired *a maid, a
cook, a gardener and a chauffeur* for only about $30 or $40 in American
money. I can't recall if that was for a week or a month but I am pretty sure
it was/is for a week. What happens is that so many of the families in
Jakarta are so well off compared to the outlying areas of Jakarta -- that
those third world Indonesia country people will do anything to be able to
move in and live with and do those jobs for so very little money.

So, when the foreign exchange student came to live with us he was used to
having their maid fix his breakfast and lunch and dinner and so on and so
forth. Talk about spoiled! LOL

His father worked at a very large company - which was also a company that
worked *with* the United States. I can't recall the name of it. Grrrrrrrr.
After the foreign exchange student left - I kept in contact for a little
while with his father using the father's e-mail at work. But that was almost 15 years ago so, I highly doubt they do not have computers in their homes.

I lost touch with his father and then lost his e-mail or I would certainly
try talking with him on a semi regular basis. If anything, interested in
where his son (our foreign exchange student) ended up working, etc.. We
really, really, really, really enjoyed having him that school year. I know that he went to the University of New Orleans for a couple of years and then planned on getting a job with the company that his father works for and, as
a result, finds jobs for Jakarta students whose parents work at that
particular company - either in Jakarta over here in the United States.

Just one example.

Tod mentioned Australia and, in addition, so very many other places are are techno-advanced. Further, Tod was right about learning English. In so many
countries English is required in high school or grade school through high
school. Living near the border here in Tucson Arizona and having a couple of home health aides that grew up in Mexico - they have said that English was
to be taught and learned in school. Of course that is certain areas of
Mexico but I am talking about plenty of areas!

In 2006 I began to be interested in digital art and joined an online
community to share our work. I talk with people all over the world who are
interested in the same thing and, for the greater part, they all speaking
English.

Anyway, I didn't expect anyone to have the answer like I said.   Just
thought I would bring it up and see what people thought.  It's called the
World Wide Web for a reason! LOL.
Lori Michaelson
Age - 45
C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
Tucson, AZ

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Tod E. Santee <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not many Aussie quads have been here and they don't fit #1 or #2. And > only
> one person from the UK and one from South Africa (both English-speaking
> [mostly])...?
>
> I think it might be more to do with quads in physical proximity to a
> computer with internet service. Without access, no communication. > Many
> places lack such widespread internet service to homes.  So the
> infrastructure and culture must support the ability of quads to get to
> universities.
>
> Of university-level students, most have mandatory English language
> classes... even in China, India and Japan -- 2/5th the world > population -- > but culturally, those with disabilities aren't seen much, they can be > quite
> secluded (many quads in Indonesia, too).
>
> I think there are many more reasons than than language and dislike.
>
> Best to All,
> --Tod
>
>
> ---- "John S." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > They mostly do not like Americans, (#1) and they don't speak english > > with
> comfort. (#2)
>
> john
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lori Michaelson <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:30:15 PM
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Where are ALL the quads?
>
>
>
> I have been meaning to bring this up for many moons but whenever I > think of
> it I'm not at the computer or going to the computer to ask.
>
> Over 99% of the quads who are on this list, and who have been on this > list, > are from the United States. We have Shahidul Alam from South America. > And
> Peter from the UK.   And I think there is one other person that I am
> currently forgetting?
>
> But for all the other civilized countries and with the World Wide Web > being > in almost everyone's homes now -- I wonder why we never hear from any > quads > from Japan, Scandinavian Countries, so many European countries and so > many > more? Japan beats us, and almost every other country, in technology but > that > still leaves a whole big host of many other countries whereby I'm sure > there
> many many more quads.
>
> I got on this list in 1995 but I think Jim started it a little before > that.
>
> Essentially just a rhetorical question that I have always wanted to > bring
> up. Any thoughts?
>
> Lori Michaelson
> Age - 45
> C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
> Tucson, AZ
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