That's why I'm always scared to go to hospitals, but when I have to I guess
I have to. Luckily and unlikely I have had MRSA in my bladder so when I go
into the hospital I am put on precaution and anyone that comes in has to
wear one of those paper gowns and wash their hands before and after they
come in. So I feel somewhat safe going to hospitals now. When I was at Craig
rehab hospital they taught us to try to stay out of hospitals and other
places where people can pass bugs around and gave us some tips. MRSA is one
but do you really don't want if you can avoid it! The bladder it's not so
bad, at least not as bad as I heard about how people get it on their wounds,
I have heard horror stories about how their wounds don't heal and the
possibility of it going to some other place in the body through the
bloodstream.

 

Danny Espinoza 26/m/California

Occupation before accident:

Network engineer / SR. Network security engineer

What happened:

I broke my c2,c6,c7 in a horrible car accident

Traumatic brain injury from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

not vent dependendent anymore. :]

My website: 

 <http://www.thespinalcordinjured.net/> http://www.thespinalcordinjured.net

 My social networking sites:

 <http://www.myspace.com/DannyLNX> http://www.myspace.com/DannyLNX

 <http://www.facebook.com/DannyLNX> http://www.facebook.com/DannyLNX

 

From: John S. [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] multivitamins

 

Back in the real world, I've always taken vitamins because they help your
immune system to function at it's best. I don't know a Doctor that doesn't
take them, or a pharmacist. It woud be nice if we could eat such healthy
food that we didn't need supplements, but I can't be certain of my meal
composition.

Superbugs are a result of over use of anti-biotics and people taking the
anti-biotic only untill they feel better and not completing the full
regiment. Many anti-biotics are present in the foods we eat. Normal bugs get
a chance to mutate untill they are immune to the medicine we depend on to
keep them in check.

The stupid part is sending these people to a hospital were they infect
others with comprimized immune systems because even the best hand washing
will not stop the transmision of superbugs. There is a bug specific to
overuse of hand sanitizers but it isn't a superbug. It can be a problem in
nursing homes and hospitals.
Multivitamins and probiotics will help you survive a superbug outbreak. 

 

Best to all,

john

 

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From: Lissette Whitehead <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 10:12:03 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] multivitamins

I agree with Dan, the more careful you are by using anti-bacterial the
weeker your immune sistem gets and germs become more resistant. I've heard
of those super bugs, that's scary, bugs mutating due to antibacterials. 

Lissette Whitehead
1177 Broadway Suite #4
Chula Vista, CA 91911
www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com
<http://www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com/>  






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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:01:47 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] multivitamins
To: [email protected]; [email protected]

I don't shake hands. It is a filthy tradition that probably kills more
people than most plagues. I've seen what I get on my hands. If my aids
didn't clean really well they'd be sick constantly.

john

 

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From: Eric W Rudd <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 6:43:36 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] multivitamins

lol the only time i wash my hands is by holding them under running water &
during my shower


Eric W Rudd
[email protected]

 


 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Dan 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] multivitamins

 

I used to be a big fan of antiseptic products until I learned, as Don
suggested, that by doing so we are creating super bugs. If we do this long
enough, we will become like the boy in the bubble. In effect, instead of
becoming healthier we will become sicker -- more fragile. Our immune systems
will weaken from disuse and any minute exposure to a pathogen will make us
gravely ill. It makes sense as we have been living with these germs since
the beginning of time and they rarely made us sick. Unfortunately, the
commercial industry is trying to convince us to buy all these expensive and
unnecessary products.

So, I've gone back to doing things the way I was raised. No more
antibacterial this and antibacterial that. Instead I stick to plain old soap
and water. I've also gone green with all of my household products. All you
need to keep your house clean are simple and cheap products such as ammonia,
white vinegar, washing soda, etc. Go ahead, ask your grandma.

The new green Dan



At 05:52 PM 11/18/2009, Don Price said something that elicited my response:
 



I'm not a medical expert in any sense, but here are a few things I believe:
 
-  If what you're taking [vitamins] is working for you, fine.  However, if
you eat a fairly healthy, balanced diet you may be wasting money on vitamin
supplements.  Talk to a dietician if you have one available, or attend a
nutrition course at your local gym/college/whole foods, etc.
 
- Vitamin C, while popular, has never really been proven to prevent the
catching of the common cold, and studies vary on whether it reduces cold
symptoms much.  Yes, I know Linus Pauling swore by mega-doses of vitamin C,
but if you read the studies you'll find no solid evidence.  However, again I
say:  if it's working for you, keep at it!
 
-  Mega doses of vitamin C [ascorbic acid,] do create an acidic urinary
tract, which helps retard bacterial growth.  Just be careful, because mega
doses can also have side-effects such as kidney stones and diarrhea.  Other
natural remedies to prevent UTIs include:  cranberry/blackberry juice,
D-Mannose [Google it,] and apple cider vinegar.  
 
-  I've tried multi-vitamins in the past, and I've found they affect my
bowels.  In my case they make everything loose, but others I've talked to
get bound up, especially when the multi-vitamins include iron.  
 
-  I, too, use hand-sanitizers or anti-bacterial soaps.  I've been seeing
studies that this may actually be detrimental, as we're creating "super
germs" that are resistant.  I am not sure what to think about this
topic--it's hard to avoid anti-bacterial products.
 
That's my 2 cents.  And worth about that much.
 
Don.
 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: RONALD L PRACHT 

To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:35 PM

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] multivitamins

I take 1000 mg vitamin c in morning and 1000mg vitamin c at night. If a feel
a cold or sore throat i take an extra 1000 mg that day. I was told you cant
overdose on vitamin c, you will just urinate the excess out of the system.
Ive been using alot of hand sanitizer lately whenever I go out and get home.


  

ron c7              

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] multivitamins

To: [email protected]

Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 2:28 PM

How many vitamin C when you feel something coming on, are you referring to a
Cold or a UTI?  My normal dosage is 500, 4 times a day.  Is that too much.

.

Thank you,

Dana

 

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