I had a procedure done in 1987. It was more complicated than what you're 
looking at.  They used large and small bowl to form a pouch which has a chimney 
with a valve that goes to the surface of my belly just to the right of my 
navel.  I use a straight male cath and am able to cath myself.  I did end up 
with pneumonia, but I have had several surgeries since then without general 
anesthesia (one a 10 hour revision of the original diversion, 2 flaps, a 
hysterectomy where they had to open me up from my pubic hair to just under my 
ribcage).  The ileovesicostomy sounds like an easier surgery.  I always talk 
with the anesthesiologist (the surgeon always say it's impossible) about a 
spinal or an epidural.  That numbs everything below, so you do not have to deal 
with AD.  It's a good option for avoiding the vent and the general anesthesia.

So, no matter which procedure you choose, staying away from the general 
anesthesia is the key.  And, it IS entirely do-able!!

I must add ...  Since I had my procedure, 20+ years ago, I very rarely get UTIs 
and I've only had 2 kidney stones.

If you have any questions just ask!

Good luck,
Nan (44 years post)




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 From: Quadius <[email protected]>
To: quad-list <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:49 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] ileovesicostomy
 

I have been experiencing a multitude of problems over the last year and finally 
I had a cystoscopy done in August which showed there were no stones or any 
other obstructions.  I had been experiencing a lot of pain from the catheter 
rubbing against the back of the bladder wall.

I have managed to tape my suprapubic (SP) against a stat lock device that I'm 
using on my lower abdomen.  This is working well with the pain most of the 
time, but I am still having problems with my catheter not draining properly at 
times.  Repositioning the bag so that the urine has to travel up seems to help 
about 50% of the time, but there also seems to be those times when we have to 
flush with some saline in order to get it draining again.

When I explain this to be urologist, who works on a multitude of quadriplegics 
here in Tampa and as been my urologist for the last 10 years) she informed me 
that I would be an ideal candidate for the ileovesicostomy.  She told me that 
my catheter had atrophied so significantly that it was probably one of the only 
options left up to me.  I have been procrastinating and thought I had 
everything resolved, but I have been experiencing a lot of problems lately.  I 
think I'm just delaying the inevitable.

Has anyone on this list have the procedure and if so would they mind telling me 
their experiences?

I am searching through forums right now and trying to gather as much 
information as I can.  I'm planning on scheduling another meeting with my 
urologist in order to allay my fears.  I haven't had surgery since I have been 
paralyzed and I'm terribly frightened of general anesthetic.  I don't want to 
be put back on a ventilator after spending four months of what I now think were 
the worst months of my life fighting to get off the ventilator.

Anyway, if you can help out I really appreciated.
Quadius
PS please excuse any errors.  Among the backup to my backup microphone and it 
has some static bursts into it right now.  I really need to get my computer and 
microphones within working order again.

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