Soooooooo many family & friends say to me periodically " ... I don't know how 
you do it, I couldn't." Meaning live a life as a quad. I tell them "I do it 
because I have no choice and one day at a time."     Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

> On Nov 6, 2014, at 2:10 PM, RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Your right everybody says that but 99 percent would deal with it and do what 
> they can. I had a guy once tell me he would of pulled the plug, then some 
> girl went crazy on him telling him ..........what plug? What it comes down to 
> if your above ground you deal with what you got, its about what you still 
> have, not what you don't have. Keep wiglin and jiglin what you got.
> 
> ron
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 1:02 PM, Larry Willis <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think most able-bodied folks say they would choose death over quadom. My 
> high school students used to say that. It's an easy thing to say, but when it 
> actually happens, attitudes change. The will to live is a pretty strong force.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> Resent-From: [email protected]
>> From: Ed Tessier <[email protected]>
>> Date: November 6, 2014 at 12:47:05 PM EST
>> To: RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Monkey shines
>> 
>>  When monkey shines came out friends in Hollywood warned it would paint a 
>> terrible picture of quadriplegia. A group of us out ADAPT, the disability 
>> civil rights organization, were absolutely appalled. We organized a 
>> demonstration that was carried by national media and triggered similar 
>> protests in other cities. we weren't protesting the horror premise – – the 
>> genre is outlandish by definition. We were protesting the entire back story 
>> regarding the disabilities, that we live in nightmare existence, isolated, 
>> despised, deformed by self-loathing and hate for everybody else. This 
>> judgment went completely un-critiqued by the narrative and, I'm sad to say, 
>> the audience. One able-bodied civil rights activist polled people as they 
>> left showings of the movie. 80 something percent said quadriplegic was a 
>> life not worth living. That is the fuel for discrimination, prejudice and 
>> all the way up to euthanasia. I don't think we're much better off 26 years 
>> later. kill me I'm a quad  still proliferate.
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 5:54 PM, RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> after my last surgery I went back to my swimming and lifting as soon as 
>> possible. Upon returning my coach told me "you are a fucked up quad Ron". I 
>> said "no Steve the fucked up quads are at home and never go out"
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 7:45 PM, Larry Willis 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Well said, Ron. I think you expressed the feelings of many of us.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, November 5, 2014, RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> I have thought about suicide many times. Its not really to do with being a 
>> quad in itself.............its the pain, hurt, being shunned, what could 
>> have beens, people throwing the blame on you, watching other people live 
>> full lives while you struggle to hold your own or make small gains. The 
>> times where I have been happy I was doing things, going places with 
>> girlfriends, doing my swimming..........then things were good and life was 
>> worth it. Its a very slippery slope as a quad if you have little support.
>> 
>> Im sure someone on here will tell how life is better now as a quad and they 
>> make more money now and women just knock the door down to sleep with them. 
>> Its really about your support system and some about self motivation. I have 
>> seen people on both ends of the spectrum and everywhere in between. enjoy 
>> the ride while you can.
>> 
>> ron
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:09 PM, Gmail <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> I already know exactly how I am going to carry it out when my pain gets bad 
>> enough.  Bobbie 
>> 
>> Smile Everyday
>> 
>> > On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Larry Willis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I'm in the process of watching Monkey Shines right now (Wed 2:47 pm). The 
>> > doc just said 6 out of ten quads attempt suicide. He didn't say how many 
>> > were successful. What do you guys think about that number? I've thought 
>> > about it many times but never actually attempted. Thoughts of my family 
>> > always pull me out of it. If I were absolutely alone and in a nursing 
>> > home, might be a different story. Or maybe not. I dunno.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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