I think that the first thing everyone needs to know about most pain drugs is 
that you must continually break the forming addiction.  Staying on one drug 
will cause it to lose its effectiveness.at that point you are taking the drug 
and its not doing anything but feeding an addiction. No one in pain wants to 
hear this but the fact is you must find another drug or device while you detox.
 The drug needs to come from another family of drugs.  Altering your 
medications and using milder drugs whatever the pain isn't quite as bad can 
help extend the use of Norco or vicodin.
  Don't get me wrong, I'm totally sympathetic I've been on the trip myself.  
john s


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-------- Original message --------
From: [email protected] 
Date:11/24/2014  3:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia and pain 

I have the same thing with pinched nerves from my disc. Also, when I first 
broke my neck My hip on one side got inflamed with calcium deposits 
(hetertopicosification) witch has left me crooked. The last few years my whole 
other side has deterorated and so Norco has stopped working very well. What is 
the next step up in pain management.? They won't operate.

Meredith
From: "alcibiates2" <[email protected]>
To: "Danny Hearn" <[email protected]>, "quad-list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:57:02 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia

I was told it was disintegrating disc disease. There's no cure for it. It 
causes nerves to be pinched as well as making it impossible to position 
comfortably. Spending long times sitting in the chair is really painful.I'm to 
the point now where I get out of bed for a couple hours each day.
Best wishes. 
john s


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-------- Original message --------
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/24/2014 5:44 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: alcibiates2 ,[email protected] 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

John, I read that many quads develope disc problems in their backs, did they do 
anything for yours or do you just get by as best you can with that??  thanks, 
Dan**


On Sunday, November 23, 2014 6:55 PM, alcibiates2 <[email protected]> wrote:


Dan, I've had some fractures that were almost undetectable but really sent my 
bp up and pulse way down. Just the weight of my foot separated my tibia at the 
mantle below the knee. Chalky bones and deterioration of spinal disc's have 
played hell with me. Try sitting straight up and take something for pain. Don't 
recline until your pulse returns to your normal never be afraid to 911 yourself 
to an er.
Tip:take a copy of a medical definition of AD with you along with your med 
list. I swear they can be pig ignorant of what is going on and what to do. Help 
has gotten ambivalent in Cincinnati. 
Best Wishes,
John s







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-------- Original message --------
From: Danny Hearn 
Date:11/23/2014 4:42 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Autonomic Dysreflexia 

Man, I hate having dysreflexia and unable to find the cause, I have been having 
it on and off for about 3 days and have had almost no sleep for the last 2 
days. Bladder and bowels all seem fine-no pressure sores or etc. that we can 
find. When I try to lay down at night after a while I get real hot and clammy, 
my heart begins to pound and act up. I do have a syrinx and bad neck and back 
pain but not sure if that can be the problem. I guess Monday I'll try to call 
my primary doctor and get checkup and bloodwork for a start, This stuff is 
depressing and drives my wife crazy making her lose sleep also, plus she is a 
caregiver to an elderly woman with alzheimers 4 days a week. This Quad related 
stuff can be so challenging at times ! Well I guess i'm done venting...it's 
about 3:45 am. Hope To get better before long.  Dan H***



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