What's Norco?

On 11/26/2015 5:08 PM, Ed Tessier wrote:

Hey guys,

My worst post injury pain management problem has been chronic urethra pain. It can be a constant slicing/burning sensation, comparable to what some people get during urinary tract infections. My symptoms started after years of passing kidney stones and procedures for kidney stones. The best guest of my urologist is that all lead to nerve damage that drives the pain. Why is it when complete quads have sensation below the injury level it's never pleasure?!

The pain became so bad it was really shutting down the rest of my life and got me thinking of suicide when my actual accident and paralysis did not. so we tried absolutely everything both traditional and alternative medicines. Nothing seemed to work, even massive amounts of morphine. By keeping a very detailed pain diary, I did discover that Neurontin sometimes helped reduce the severity of my pain episodes, by about a third, though not their frequency. That still wasn't enough to give me my life back, but I have taken it regularly ever since. a couple of years ago I tried to see if I could stop it, but I quickly had pain flareups and so went back to it.

I stumbled on my current solution by accident. I was briefly treated for some severe spasticity after taking a spill out of my wheelchair. My old school doctor prescribed an old-school anti-spasmodic, Soma. At the same time, my neurologist had me  temporarily back on Norco (according to my tracking it might have reduced pain experienced by 5 to 10% under some conditions) while trying to figure out what else we could try. The un planned cocktail of the two, while not contraindicated, had an amazing effect on my pain. During mild to moderate episodes, it shut it down completely, like flipping off the switch. During severe episodes of pain, it pushed it way down so that I could be functional again.  It was the holy Grail.

 I have tinkered with the cocktail a couple of times, in hopes that the underlying causes might have declined over time, and when my insurance company stopped covering Soma as part of its across-the-board campaign against opioids. Reducing the medication and substituting similar compounds, such as Valium instead of soma, didn't work. Meanwhile, there is no sign of declining efficacy or addiction – – I am not taking more now than I did five years ago.

 I doubt my cocktail would help you in your situation. The symptoms are so different. My point is, to cautiously explore outside orthodox treatments. Our conditions are such a tiny minority that case history simply doesn't exist. Will my physicians ever write a paper talking about how these three meds in concert solved a highly unusual chronic pain condition in an aging quad? No. The applicability just isn't there for wider treatment. Each of us is left reinventing the wheel for our own quasi-unique conditions. I wouldn't experiment outside of a doctor's care, what I would want a doctor that is willing to try and try and try different approaches, even Hail Mary passes, on the chance that you can put together a novel, individualized treatment..

 Don't give up

ed





Ed Tessier
Mobile: (909) 994-5900

Jeved Management, Inc.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Eric Olson <[email protected]> wrote:
Is this Wally?  About 6.5 inches.  It didn't help my current situation either.


On 11/22/2015 8:39 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Welcome Your Return Eric.
Welcome Back and Stay Warm.
How much snow did you finally get this weekend
 
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 11/21/2015 8:50:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Hello,

My name is Eric Olson.  I am from Milwaukee.  I was a member of the
Quad-list forever until my daughter was born about 9 years ago.  I just
didn't have time after she was born.  I am a C3 Ventilator dependent
spinal cord injury.  This July 1st will be 30 years post injury for me.

Anyway from the onset of my injury, I suffered from awful sensations of
cold in my arms.  My arms felt like they were soaking in ice water.  I
actually met someone else on the Quad-list with similar sensations.  I
think his name was Greg and he eventually moved to Arizona where the
weather would be beneficial.  I don't have that option.  For most of the
30 years, I have been injured, I have been taking a medication called
Imipramine that helped take the edge off of the horrible cold
sensations.  I recently had my second pseudo bowel obstruction (ileus)
and had my second abdominal surgery.  The doctors stopped the
Imipramine, because of concerns that it contributed to decreasing bowel
peristalsis.

So now, I have to find a different medication for my cold sensations.  I
am looking for input from anybody that uses medications for any spinal
cord associated pain.  I have heard of people using medications like
Lyrica or Neurontin.  Anyone else out there get intense sensations of
cold in their arms?  I am desperate for any kind of relief.

Thanks,

Eric

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