Hi Bob, I forgot to ask you where you get the Neosporin Gu solution?
Secondly, I think it is really important to know what bacteria someone is dealing with. This is because I would give anything to have a bacteria that is common like E. coli, Candida (yeast), Klebsiella, etc. in stead of the multi-drug-resistant bacteria I have been battling that I got from dirty hospital tools a little over a couple years ago (Staphylococcus Aureus - MRSA) or Enterococci faecalis or Streptococcus which are gram-positive nosocomial (hospital acquired) bacterium and, again, simply won't go away especially with a catheter. Biofilms build up on the bladder wall and they isolate. I even tried taking supplements called Biofilm Defense but that didn't work. My urologist thought that was a great idea to try but it didn't work. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:20 AM Robert Vogel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Eric, > > For me, I started doing the Saline/Neosporin Gu solution once in the > morning, every day. Because I intermittent cath, > it would stay in my bladder for about 4-5 hours. However my urologist says > putting it in the bladder via a Foley tube > and capping it off for 20 minutes would produce similar results. > > I saw immediate results when I started this, my urine was coming out more > clear and not smelly etc. and it stopped > my UTI’s cold. This is just my experience. The irrigations have worked so > well, now I only do an irrigation every few > days and even then only if I notice my urine is getting cloudy or smelly > and (again, my experience) it clears it right > up. > > If I see really cloudy urine I may do an irrigation in the morning and one > in the evening just to be really sure and safe. > The thing I like about this is the antibiotic solution doesn’t go beyond > the bladder so it doesn’t mess up my gut and/or > go throughout the rest of the body. > > Hope this helps. I have a bunch of friends with SCI that were having > constant UTI’s and they ran this idea by their > urologist, got started on the program and they report the same results. > > Hope this helps. > > Bob V > > On Apr 23, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Eric Olson <[email protected]> wrote: > > How often do you do irrigations? > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 4:48 PM Robert Vogel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Lori and All, >> >> For what it’s worth, I’m in my 34th year as a T10 para and I intermittent >> cath. About 12-15 years ago I started getting more frequent >> UTI’s despite doing everything right, plenty of water, clean cath >> technique etc… I was taking too many courses of antibiotics and it was >> messing with my gut etc. Around 2011 urologist suggested I try >> irrigating with a solution of saline mixed with prescription Neosporin GU >> (it comes >> in a glass ampule). I’ve only had one UTI since! I asked her if this is >> appropriate for people with a Foley and/or Suprapubic and she said “Yes, you >> put the irrigation solution in the bladder, cap off the Foley tube for >> 20-minutes (set a timer!) then let it drain. It has completely stopped my >> UTI’s >> and anecdotally, has stopped UTI’s of friends of mine in a similar >> situation. >> >> Following are links to two columns I wrote for New Mobility magazine >> about the subject. I hope it helps. >> >> Neosporin Gu >> http://www.newmobility.com/2011/04/neosporin-gu/ >> >> Bladder Irrigation Solutions for UTI Reduction >> http://www.newmobility.com/?s=Neosporin+GU >> >> Bob Vogel >> >> >> On Apr 22, 2019, at 2:14 PM, Lori Michaelson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> When I mentioned in my last e-mail that I tried using an irrigation >> solution but could not come up with the name I just found it by doing a >> search on Veteracin vf being used in the bladder on the Care Cure >> Community. I see that back in 2011 someone was inquiring about the >> Veteracin for irrigation or instilling. There was a long thread on this and >> then one of them mentioned the solution I was trying to think of and it was >> Renacidin I resorted to (before even having all these problems) that caused >> my bladder wall to bleed even though I started out with a very small >> amount. :-( >> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:33 PM Eric Olson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You can buy it on Amazon but this place is the cheapest I've found >>> >>> >>> https://expressvet.pharmacy/product/vetericyn-vf-plus-wound-and-skin-care/ >>> >>> I have ordered from them in the past >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:52 PM Lori Michaelson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm definitely not going to the hospital or a hospital since that is >>>> where I got it but I thank you Dana for replying. >>>> >>>> Eric... where do you get Veteracin vf? I mentioned in my e-mail that >>>> the bacteria as MRSA. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:22 AM Eric Olson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> All I could suggest is irritating with vetericyn vf and a drug called >>>>> methenamine. It turns your urine into formaldehyde. The problem is that >>>>> you have to keep your urine acidic for it to work. So lots and lots of >>>>> vitamin c round the clock. Neither is a cure, but together they might >>>>> help >>>>> with your pain. What's the bug? >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 4:48 PM Lori Michaelson < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Has anyone had to resort to go into an Infectious Disease Physician? >>>>>> If so, why? >>>>>> >>>>>> I acquired a nosocomial infection (from a hospital) a little over a >>>>>> couple years ago and it won't go away. It used to be responsive to oral >>>>>> antibiotics (specifically Nitrofurantoin - a.k.a. Macrobid) but it has >>>>>> now >>>>>> become resistant to that. >>>>>> >>>>>> My urologist put me on Gentamicin injections but that did not work >>>>>> either. I don't have a fever but I am doubled over in bladder pain and >>>>>> flank pain. My urologist is at a loss as to what to do saying there is >>>>>> nothing that can be done to get rid of MRSA in my bladder. That is what I >>>>>> have. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and Happy Easter! >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind >>>>>> and heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." >>>>>> ~Dean Koontz >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind >>>> and heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." >>>> ~Dean Koontz >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and >> heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean >> Koontz >> >> >> > -- "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz
