What is the percentage of each that you use in the mixture? From: Robert Vogel <rhvsh...@me.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:21 AM To: Eric Olson <whee...@wi.rr.com> Cc: Lori Michaelson <lorilivin...@gmail.com>; quad-list <quad-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Infectious Disease physician
Hi Eric, For me, I started doing the Saline/Neosporin Gu solution once in the morning, every day. Because I intermittent cath, it would stay in my bladder for about 4-5 hours. However my urologist says putting it in the bladder via a Foley tube and capping it off for 20 minutes would produce similar results. I saw immediate results when I started this, my urine was coming out more clear and not smelly etc. and it stopped my UTI’s cold. This is just my experience. The irrigations have worked so well, now I only do an irrigation every few days and even then only if I notice my urine is getting cloudy or smelly and (again, my experience) it clears it right up. If I see really cloudy urine I may do an irrigation in the morning and one in the evening just to be really sure and safe. The thing I like about this is the antibiotic solution doesn’t go beyond the bladder so it doesn’t mess up my gut and/or go throughout the rest of the body. Hope this helps. I have a bunch of friends with SCI that were having constant UTI’s and they ran this idea by their urologist, got started on the program and they report the same results. Hope this helps. Bob V On Apr 23, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Eric Olson <whee...@wi.rr.com<mailto:whee...@wi.rr.com>> wrote: How often do you do irrigations? On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 4:48 PM Robert Vogel <rhvsh...@me.com<mailto:rhvsh...@me.com>> wrote: Hi Lori and All, For what it’s worth, I’m in my 34th year as a T10 para and I intermittent cath. About 12-15 years ago I started getting more frequent UTI’s despite doing everything right, plenty of water, clean cath technique etc… I was taking too many courses of antibiotics and it was messing with my gut etc. Around 2011 urologist suggested I try irrigating with a solution of saline mixed with prescription Neosporin GU (it comes in a glass ampule). I’ve only had one UTI since! I asked her if this is appropriate for people with a Foley and/or Suprapubic and she said “Yes, you put the irrigation solution in the bladder, cap off the Foley tube for 20-minutes (set a timer!) then let it drain. It has completely stopped my UTI’s and anecdotally, has stopped UTI’s of friends of mine in a similar situation. Following are links to two columns I wrote for New Mobility magazine about the subject. I hope it helps. Neosporin Gu http://www.newmobility.com/2011/04/neosporin-gu/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newmobility.com%2F2011%2F04%2Fneosporin-gu%2F&data=02%7C01%7CGailO%40Pennwell.com%7Cc205658c4ae94e7be0f608d6c81867cf%7C5bbf75da8a3f493c8343e6cd0cb0e070%7C0%7C1%7C636916404500106607&sdata=hQyWe0jUJrYGxYmL5JeOQDbBcg4pyNWSlh3mJr6fL4Q%3D&reserved=0> Bladder Irrigation Solutions for UTI Reduction http://www.newmobility.com/?s=Neosporin+GU<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newmobility.com%2F%3Fs%3DNeosporin%2BGU&data=02%7C01%7CGailO%40Pennwell.com%7Cc205658c4ae94e7be0f608d6c81867cf%7C5bbf75da8a3f493c8343e6cd0cb0e070%7C0%7C1%7C636916404500116621&sdata=%2BedHUj9cWcxEBFCS%2FvGtkqqugH%2FtDiUgAb4e1Ncdi4M%3D&reserved=0> Bob Vogel On Apr 22, 2019, at 2:14 PM, Lori Michaelson <lorilivin...@gmail.com<mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com>> wrote: When I mentioned in my last e-mail that I tried using an irrigation solution but could not come up with the name I just found it by doing a search on Veteracin vf being used in the bladder on the Care Cure Community. I see that back in 2011 someone was inquiring about the Veteracin for irrigation or instilling. There was a long thread on this and then one of them mentioned the solution I was trying to think of and it was Renacidin I resorted to (before even having all these problems) that caused my bladder wall to bleed even though I started out with a very small amount. :-( On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:33 PM Eric Olson <whee...@wi.rr.com<mailto:whee...@wi.rr.com>> wrote: You can buy it on Amazon but this place is the cheapest I've found https://expressvet.pharmacy/product/vetericyn-vf-plus-wound-and-skin-care/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexpressvet.pharmacy%2Fproduct%2Fvetericyn-vf-plus-wound-and-skin-care%2F&data=02%7C01%7CGailO%40Pennwell.com%7Cc205658c4ae94e7be0f608d6c81867cf%7C5bbf75da8a3f493c8343e6cd0cb0e070%7C0%7C1%7C636916404500116621&sdata=r8rAm4gCO2XEGJBp86j3tm0aUHYwnZnbmWph0zO%2Bi7U%3D&reserved=0> I have ordered from them in the past On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 1:52 PM Lori Michaelson <lorilivin...@gmail.com<mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm definitely not going to the hospital or a hospital since that is where I got it but I thank you Dana for replying. Eric... where do you get Veteracin vf? I mentioned in my e-mail that the bacteria as MRSA. On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:22 AM Eric Olson <whee...@wi.rr.com<mailto:whee...@wi.rr.com>> wrote: All I could suggest is irritating with vetericyn vf and a drug called methenamine. It turns your urine into formaldehyde. The problem is that you have to keep your urine acidic for it to work. So lots and lots of vitamin c round the clock. Neither is a cure, but together they might help with your pain. What's the bug? On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 4:48 PM Lori Michaelson <lorilivin...@gmail.com<mailto:lorilivin...@gmail.com>> wrote: Has anyone had to resort to go into an Infectious Disease Physician? If so, why? I acquired a nosocomial infection (from a hospital) a little over a couple years ago and it won't go away. It used to be responsive to oral antibiotics (specifically Nitrofurantoin - a.k.a. Macrobid) but it has now become resistant to that. My urologist put me on Gentamicin injections but that did not work either. I don't have a fever but I am doubled over in bladder pain and flank pain. My urologist is at a loss as to what to do saying there is nothing that can be done to get rid of MRSA in my bladder. That is what I have. Thanks and Happy Easter! -- "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz -- "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz -- "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz PennWell Corporation is located at 1421 S. Sheridan Road, Tulsa OK, 74112 USA. If you wish to unsubscribe, please forward this message to @unsubscr...@pennwell.com with REMOVE in the subject line. 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