On 11/12/2015 11:21 AM, Paul Jakma wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Jafar Al-Gharaibeh wrote:

Technically, I don't think there is a way around this - write access will not be turned loose. The privileged group will be made bigger, maybe covering everyone on the dev list if that what you mean by "community, practically eliminating "privileged" within that community. Someone has to still give write access to developers. When/who grant write access?

There are practicalities, but you can frame things a certain way. E.g., the one doing the final push to 'master' can be a 'secretary' or a 'facilitator'. Labels are funny, they matter. :)

To flip it around, if having commit access means you have an easier time getting your stuff in - all else being equal - then that means the process is borken right? (unless pretty much everyone has commit access). Certainly those without the commit access and with equally good patches would think so, wouldn't they? And this has been the case for a long time. Not through malice, but simply cause the community out grew the original model.

So we need to get to a point where the question of commit access is a boring one, no?

I agree, people would not care about who has commit access if patches go in in a timely fashion with all patches having equal treatments.


The recent "rounds" system, and queueing everything up, and filtering out only the stuff that breaks or raises comments, hopefully goes toward that. Or not?

(I have sneaked one or two things in even with that, but really trivial compile fixes only - I hope).

I like this idea, it means patches are quickly integrated which everyone on this wants probably. what if this is your first patch/contribution?

It goes in.

Presumably, if people don't recognise the name, they'll be more likely to give the patch a good look.

 True, we hope!


That's why it's good to do this in a staged, cyclical fashion too. Make it clear what's proposed to go in, and give people a chance to review and comment. ??

I agree. I would really like to see this push come to fruition. It is great to see a big number of active people with a lot of contributions. Having the problem of managing a continues flow of contributions is a good problem to have, it keeps the project moving forward, and it really helps to do something about it.

Cheers,
Jafar





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