Even if real world doesn't match the test has been the same for a bit so seeing 
a 5 year old car getting almost double the mpg is quite amazing. 

I guess the research budget is dictated by what is fashionable in the buying 
market.  So whilst Eco is popular I guess the scientists are concentrating more 
on that area.  

Certainly seems 200mpg cars are on the way. I suspect that petrol prices will 
be a little over double what they are now when they are common place. Certainly 
seems to fit my experience that whilst petrol prices have gone up, my overall 
spending in petrol has roughly stayed in line with inflation. 

Here are my rough figures. 

Seat Ibiza 2002 1.9 tdi, on paper 55 mpg, I get 60, my wife gets 55. Best on a 
25 mile commute on mixed roads 84mpg. 

BMW 123d 2007 2.0, on paper 49 mpg, I get 42 mpg. Not really tried hypermiling 
tricks with this one yet. 

The only difference in my driving is the BMW is driven faster on average. I 
used to try many other 'economical' driving tricks or hypermiling tricks. 

Oh one more.... 

Quantum 2+2 2.0 turbo, 40+mpg when driven gently (or on the Ireland trip), 20 
odd driven hard. 

M





On 28 Feb 2012, at 08:04, barnacle <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
>> I still can't work out where they are 'suddenly' finding power and economy 
>> from. Eg 5 series BMW 55 mpg average. That same model car was getting not 
>> much more than half that only 5 years ago and was slower too.
> 
> The cynic in me wonders if they're just very highly optimised to work
> with the standard economy test... certainly there are plenty of cars
> around with very good headline figures but which are much less
> economical in the real world. OK perhaps if you sit at 70mph, never
> accelerate or decelerate, for hundreds of miles at a time, but no
> matter how careful you are that's rarely possible.
> 
> It still takes about the same energy to move a car at 70 as it always
> has, but releasing that energy (i.e. the volumetric efficiency of the
> engine) has certainly improved.
> 
> Neil
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