Yes that is what I thought so I tested each of the sensors to see what
happened with temperature.  The gauge sensor is, as stated, a "straight
forward" thermistor but the ECU sensor is designed to switch from high
resistance to low resistance at ~ 40°C to ensure that the ECU switches from
the "Cold Map" to the "Hot Map" at the earliest opportunity to save both on
economy and the generation of HC.  This device also has a high level of
hysteresis built in to ensure that the system does not accidentally switch
back to the "Cold Map" should the engine undergo some freak overcooling - I
had to immerse the switch in cold water to get it to switch back after
heating whilst the transition from high to low resistance takes place over
about 5°C around 40°C.  I was surprised at this response so I checked this
three times and the above characteristics were repeated each time.

Whilst the car is not suffering from poor performance,  I will check the
inlet manifold temperature sensor as I had forgotten that!  Thanks for the
tip!

This really is a matter of having everything working properly and giving
readings that are believable.  A low reading temperature gauge is more of a
distraction than anything else as it is not calibrated in any scale but if
it is not indication in the right region I start to wonder if anything is
wrong.

The worst thing in that respect is the speedo on Trish's Micra, which reads
~9.8% high.  We complained to Nissan shortly after we bought it to receive
the reply  "If it is within 10% then it is legal and we are not going to
change it!".  Since the speedo is driven by the ECU and recalibration is
simply a number change in the ECU via the device they use to reset the
service interval, I was not impressed.  After last year when they charged us
50% more for the last service done under the guarantee and only completed
half of it as well as cross threading the sump plug (for which they tried to
put the blame on me whilst they are the only people to have touched it) and
not finding the air-con pipe that had worked its way loose, we will not be
returning to that garage, even to keep the computer record up to date.

Hamish

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of ChrisC
Sent: 14 March 2012 13:49
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Low Reading Temperature Gauge

On both the CVH and the Zetec engines, the gauge sender and the ECU sensor
are totally separate; not sure what you mean by an ECU switch?  they are
both thermistors (resistors which decrease in value with applied
temperature).

Just a temperature gauge reading alone shouldn't affect economy.
On mine, you can see/hear the idle speed drop in one jump as the engine
warms up, which indicates that the coolant temperature sensor is working.

I had an issue with poor low-revs acceleration on my CVH-engined H4 (a flat
spot about 1800 rpm) - replacing the intake manifold  air temperature sensor
seems to have helped significantly, although there is still a little
hesitation when the engine is warmed up.

Chris




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