Thanks Jim, Michael In a message dated 03/02/2013 19:01:08 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
It's the colour of the the rocker cover. Silver aluminium on the early Zetec and Zetec-E and black on the revised Zetec-R (i think it's actually plastic). You can of course find engines where the silver rocker cover has been painted black. Other differences, the silver top has a one piece allloy sump, the black top has a 2 part sump with a aluminium section and a small steel section below. The silvertop has the waterpump on the end of the block, on the blacktop it's more forward, just infront of the black. Jim On 03/02/2013 15:47, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) wrote: Please can anyone tell me - what is black on a black top engine or silver on a silver top? What are the main structural differences that enable one to be distinguished from the other? Thanks. In a message dated 02/02/2013 13:37:52 GMT Standard Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: Having looked into this further I concur with Jim, the silvertop zetec 2.0 engine is definitely the most straightforward replacement for the 1.6 Fiesta zetec, although I think the blacktop does have the benefit of advances in the overall development of the zetec engines. The blacktop could be fitted but there are far more complications than are initially apparent, some parts of the engine have to be removed with a grinder to allow clearance, the engine mountings need modification, the pulley/water pump arrangement also needs modification and there is the ECU/ignition to deal with etc. By comparison the silvertop seems a doddle! The next task is finding a silvertop engine with sensible mileage, given that these were phased out for the blacktop in 1996, as far as I can ascertain, this probably wont be that easy, I will keep a lookout for either an engine or an old Mondeo thats been well cared for but has seen better days! Andrew On 1 December 2012 09:54, Jim Hearne <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: No, it’s a totally different engine, most similar to the twin cam used in the Sierra and Granada. Jim From: _Andrew Owen_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:09 AM To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Silvertop vs Blacktop Just looking into this a little more I am not all sure that the RS 2000 engine is a Silvertop. On 31 January 2013 07:49, Andrew Owen <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: As an alternative would the Mk6 Escort RS2000 engine be a good swop for an H4 with a 1995 Zetec1.6, I would guess the answer is yes as its a Silvertop from the same vintage? I am particularly thinking here of the compatibility of ECU's and ignition circuits. Additionally I have read that if using a 2.0 Zetec in a Fiesta (H4) the standard inlet manifold is the wrong shape/too big and the best one to go for is the RS 1800 manifold, I was wondering how this compares with the RS 2000 manifold in terms of size/shape. Comments welcomed! On 30 January 2013 21:42, Ian Harrison <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: There you go... :-) Sent from my iPad On 30 Jan 2013, at 20:41, TonyV <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: > I second the need to remove a lot of the sump webbing to fit the starter, but mine went into a north-south layout. > > Carbs are always an option if you don't want the expense of injection and ecus. > > The blacktop engines do have some other nice design features - such as the builtin windage tray in the sump, and on the 2 litre there are oil jets into the underside of the piston crowns. > > One other issue that people sometimes raise is the direction of rotation of the waterpump. 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