Aha - Indeed this is very accurate! (Nice animation by the way)

I tried this on one of my tunes using playback in quartz composer, and it stuck 
nicely to the kick.

However it drifted when I used my rendering app (qtzrendang.googlecode.com), so 
it's likely a timing bug in that or some other interaction.

What do you use to render your compositions & attach the audio?

thanks for the help
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From: George Toledo <[email protected]>
To: Rua Haszard Morris <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 2 October, 2010 10:40:41 AM
Subject: Re: bpm-accurate LFO for quartz composer?

Err, sorry for the string of responses, it's just that I re-read your note 
about 
every second beat. If you take the instance where I have a half note beat, and 
offset phase by 180, then you will have it hit on the 2 and the 4 (eg., typical 
snare hit), instead of the 1 and 3. Using phase will control your offsets, and 
"groove" (eg., slightly ahead or behind beat).

Also, I've capped the whole note at sequences of 4, but you could leave it 
unranged, so that it becomes a measure count. If you change a chain to generate 
8th notes or 16th notes (or 3/4 time), you can adjust the associated range 
patches accordingly, so that they actually keep track of that count. Just 
throwing out some related thoughts that will hopefully help you in your quest 
for tight synchronization.

-GT


On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:32 PM, George Toledo <[email protected]> wrote:

BTW, please let me know if you do experience any drift in using this, as there 
isn't any reason that I'm aware of that would cause it with this. I've run it 
for a couple hours alongside a drum machine and had it keep lock.
>
>
>-GT
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>
>
>On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, George Toledo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>As a matter of fact, I made something not that long ago for just this scenario.
>>
>>
>>I am attaching the "beat engine" that I used to synchronize 
>>this: http://vimeo.com/15191953
>>
>>
>>I'm using "square waves" so that a hard tick is generated on the counter, but 
>>you can change wave types to generate the other kinds of envelopes that 
>>should 
>>be familiar from synthesis via the LFO.
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>>
>>
>>
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>>On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Rua Haszard Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>Hi list,
>>>
>>>I've been trying to animate in time with music by using LFOs running at bpm
>>>related rates. The bpms tend to be 128/130ish so are not nicely related to 
>>frame
>>>rates (e.g. 120bpm would be!).
>>>
>>>I can't seem to get accurate sync between my audio (which is at a known 
tempo)
>>>and the LFOs - the LFOs seem to drift. I think this is the accumulation of
>>>rounding error over the course of the animation.
>>>
>>>I wrote a BPM-LFO plugin so as to avoid rounding issues, supplying tempo in 
>BPM
>>>instead of period, and this LFO seems to drift just as much.
>>>
>>>Has anyone used LFOs for roughly bpm-accurate synched animation over the 
>course
>>>of about 5 minutes? If anyone's succeeded I'd love to know how to do it!
>>>
>>>BTW my needs are reasonably modest - things like an image that flashes every
>>>second beat over the course of a whole song - e.g. 64 times a minute, or a
>>>billboard that slides into view every 16 bars (64 beats) - but the LFOs need 
>to
>>>ensure these elements stay in phase with the audio beat.
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>Rua HM.
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