On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Jason Belec <jasonbe...@rogers.com> wrote:

>  You can also work the default QC output to match (closely) and apply that
> to everything coming in. Ran into this in the past myself.
>
>
>
What would be imminently useful is solid, factual, info from Apple about how
to work around the color issue correctly (if this is *even possible*),
instead of "fudge it til it looks right", or "buy product X".

Colorspace issues, Quicktime, CI problems, etc., in OS X is totally nuts,
and it needs to be resolved.

-GT

>
> On 2010-12-21, at 4:52 PM, vade <dokt...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> FCP does not use ColorSync to display video, it has its own color
> correction and gamma correction routines depending if you are running 601 or
> 709 formatted video. Quartz Composer, Quicktime and most other apps use
> ColorSync.
>
> If you have QT 7 installed on your system FCP installs a separate
> preference called Final Cut Studio Color Compatibility in to the QT prefs.
> Enable it, and Quicktime now uses the same color lookup as Final Cut Pro
> does. Open your comp, it should, hopefully, look the same.
>
> But this is almost certainly a color conversion routine.
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Patrick Sheffield wrote:
>
> The original image came from a BetaSP tape, but it doesn't matter - I see
> the same difference in all material.
>
> I didn't include a composition as all I'm doing is taking an input image
> and the Screen blend node and running it into both inputs, then the result
> to a billboard. If I do the same thing in FCP/Motion (place an image on
> V1/V2 with V2 set to Screen composite mode), the result is considerably
> different. I don't think Quartz is doing it wrong, I just need to figure out
> what FCP/Motion are actually doing...
>
> regards,
>
> Patrick
>
> On Dec 21, 2010, at 10:16 AM, George Toledo wrote:
>
> No composition?
>
> This makes it hard to discern.
>
> Try using Billboard, and adjusting native core image in settings, to see if
> that makes a difference.
>
> Where are these images coming from? They both have edge crud... is this
> from the screengrab? It looks like a gamma difference (but maybe not). Is
> that happening because the FCP image is coming from something that is
> already run through a codec?
>
> -GT
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Patrick Sheffield <<psheffi...@earthlink.net>
> psheffi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> ...between how Quartz Composer processes the Screen blend mode and how
>> Final Cut Pro and Motion do it?
>>
>> This is an image screened over itself in Final Cut Pro/Motion:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And in Quartz Composer:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In Quartz Composer it's flatter and considerably more red than FCP.
>>
>> If I perform a Screen Blend (the inverse of the multiplication of the
>> inverse), I get the same result as Quartz, but I need to figure out what
>> FCP/Motion are doing differently.
>>
>> Does anyone have any insight?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Patrick Sheffield
>> Sheffield Softworks
>>
>>
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