What if they make if a paid app.
I'll pay a lot of money if it was directly available from the App Store.

Or maybe it's not a return on investment problem for apple maybe they just 
don't care anymore...

Such a waste, shame etc...

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> On 21 nov. 2014, at 18:41, Joe Rickerby <joer...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Having not seen the code I can’t measure the size of the challenges facing 
> the project, but I’d be very interested in getting involved (developer with 
> ~4 years on apple platforms).
> 
> Joe
> 
>> On 21 Nov 2014, at 10:33 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Whilst i think the idea of making QC open source could be great i do wonder 
>> if there is a large enough community of developers with the impetus and 
>> skills to fix and maintain Quartz Composer to a usable standard?
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Jim Warrier
>> 
>> Audio Visual Performer
>> 
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>> 
>>> On Friday, 21 November 2014 at 11:29, Joe Rickerby wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think open-sourcing is the only chance QC has at this point.
>>> 
>>> But I think the prospect of Apple open sourcing QC is complicated by the 
>>> fact the QuartzComposer framework is embedded into Quartz. This means there 
>>> are apps out there that are using classes like QCRenderer, QCView to 
>>> implement graphics.
>>> 
>>> If Apple open-sources QC, they have a choice between deprecating the QC 
>>> classes (breaking third party apps) or bundling code that comes from an 
>>> open source project they don’t entirely control.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>>> On 21 Nov 2014, at 8:35 am, Dan Gregor <danin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> oh no, i can't still believe this, such a shame! there isn't any software 
>>>> on a market with a same good potential as QC had. QC should be a future. 
>>>> shame on apple, shame on all apple managers! 
>>>> what about Chris Wright, can't he push apple to make QC as a open source? 
>>>> what would be the price for QC source code?
>>>> very sad..
>>>> Dan Gregor
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 2014-11-21 5:41 GMT+01:00 Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Maybe some can start a crowdfunded community campaign to get Apple (and 
>>>>> other large software companies) to Open Source EOL software that wont 
>>>>> unduly compete with their existing products?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not for me I have no time but can't see Apple resisting a Green My Apple 
>>>>> scale campaign for too long… they're sitting on more cash assets than 
>>>>> most nations in the world today, think of the good they could do and 
>>>>> brownie points they would score.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 Nov 2014, at 11:13 am, Juan Madrigal <jua...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > They should have open sourced Final Cut Server, Shake and Color when 
>>>>> > they EOL'D them but they didn't.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Great software that's collecting dust.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's sad.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -Juan
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Nov 20, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I certainly don't want to see it go, and I don't want to use 
>>>>> >> cross-platform apps. They universally suck.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If Apple won't continue to support QC, perhaps they should open source 
>>>>> >> it instead.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Nov 20, 2014, at 15:50 , Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Quartz Composer bugs being closed. I see some my oldest Quartz 
>>>>> >>> Composer bugs are being closed with the message
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> "Apple Developer Relations 20-Nov-2014 08:01 PM
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Engineering has determined that there are no plans to address this 
>>>>> >>> issue.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We are now closing this bug report”
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> This implies that Quartz composer will no longer receive fixes for 
>>>>> >>> long standing bugs despite its continued use in many high profile 
>>>>> >>> live shows and deep integration with real time video apps.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Quartz Composer still maintains a very active community.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> One of the most common issues with qc is using OpenCI and using 
>>>>> >>> meshes. In the past year i have worked on or am aware of shows 
>>>>> >>> created for some of the highest profile musicians in the world yet 
>>>>> >>> this application is still being neglected and left to fade into 
>>>>> >>> obscurity by Apple. With the resouces that apple have at its disposal 
>>>>> >>> a enginner could easily be assigned to maintain Quartz Composer to a 
>>>>> >>> more usable standard.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I can see a large portion of the Quartz Composer user base 
>>>>> >>> transitioning to Max 7 or Vuo over the next few years. Given both 
>>>>> >>> those applications play nicely on multi OS this could lose Apple a 
>>>>> >>> large part of its creative user base which would be a shame to see 
>>>>> >>> happen
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Jim Warrier
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Audio Visual Performer
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> destroythingsbeautiful.com | www.modulate.org.uk
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