On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 3:38 PM Frédéric Pierret
<frederic.pier...@qubes-os.org> wrote:
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> Le 6/28/22 à 10:15, Outback Dingo a écrit :
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 2:30 PM Frédéric Pierret
> > <frederic.pier...@qubes-os.org> wrote:
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> >>
> >>
> >> Le 6/28/22 à 06:13, Outback Dingo a écrit :
> >>> Curiously, I often wonder why Qubes itself, as it claims to be
> >>> security enhanced, relies on Fedora, and not Silverblue or Kinoite
> >>> spins.
> >>>
> >>> I remember back in the day when it was plasma based, and actually was
> >>> pretty decent.
> >>>
> >>> Silverblue/kinoite provides ostree and more reasonable updating
> >>> methods, it's also based on fedora so now quite sure as to why you
> >>> continue down the fedora vanilla path, other then maybe the work
> >>> involved to switch out the base os flavor.
> >>>
> >>> It would surely add another layer of security having an immutable Os
> >>> that is updateable with rpm-ostree update and rollback capability.
> >>>
> >>> Any enlightenment is appreciated
> >>>
> >>
> >> We already discussed that with Marek a while ago and this is something we 
> >> want to take a look at. Right now, the reason is...we totally lack human 
> >> resources to study and work on that subject among all others tasks we have 
> >> to do.
> >>
> > well, i guess one could ask someone like me to join up and work on
> > developing the solution, after all its going to be mostly build system
> > modifications for "repos", then sorting out how it build a final image
> > with ostree
> > There is also the variant rpm-ostree that is now the default, no more
> > dnf/rpm standard.
> >
>
> I would say the first step would be to create a template because we are going 
> away from Fedora for dom0 soon or later (when sys-gui-gpu would be stable) 
> and it's probably going to be something like Yocto. Marek can give more info.
>

You mention Yocto, as I'm quite familiar with it, would also be a good
choice, especially with ostree onboard and the array of OTA update
methods available. There is a similar in concept project though lxc
based called OverC from wind river
yet thats basically partitioning "various machine instances" for iot
based type stuff they call "cubes", though there is a "cube-desktop",
XFCE based also that can be built with it.

> Best regards,
> Frédéric

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