On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:33:31PM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote:
> On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:05:36AM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote:
> > > On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> > > > so you would put hd0,X  X= 1 2  or 3 etc...  you said it was 200mb 
> > > > right so just look for something around that in kb's.  probably the 
> > > > smallest partition it should say file type too no?  ntfs.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > actualy this is from the qubes doc's  not me
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr
> > > 
> > > In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM
> > > RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size
> > > --
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr   ?
> > > 
> > > or
> > > 
> > > ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr  ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I would think it would be  the 1st partitions when it comes to booting.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is it possible my boot partition for win10   got  overwritten  when
> > > installing  Qubes somehow ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Maybe I should give up  ,  as  by the slow/no responses,  it seems there 
> > > is
> > > no way to get support for this
> > > 
> > 
> > As far as I can see a number of people have tried to help you here
> > You should read the guidelines at www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists and
> > be patient.
> > Also, a two minute search on the net would bring you to guides that
> > would enable you to learn something about grub and maybe solve the problem 
> > for
> > yourself.
> > 
> > On the specific points:
> > I doubt that your Win10 boot partition got overwritten , unless you
> > asked the installer to do so.
> > It is possible to run Windows without a SYSTEM partition, particularly if
> > installed in BIOS mode - it is, however, not standard.
> > fdisk -l shows you which partition has been marked as bootable - this
> > need not be the partition you want. It need not be the first partition.
> > Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong -
> > Windows wont boot and you will see an error message.
> > From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2.
> > In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be
> > referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2.
> > Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if
> > the first fails, reboot and choose the second.
> > 
> > Incidentally, its relatively simple to enable legacy boot on InsydeH20 -
> > again, a simple search would show you how.
> > Unless someone did this for you it's most likely that you are in UEFI
> > mode. You can check this in Linux by looking at the output from dmesg,
> > and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi'
> > Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you
> > booted UEFI.
> > The partition layout you have described doesn't seem to be standard for
> > Windows under UEFI.
> > 
> > It isn't clear if you read the documentation before installing Qubes, or
> > if you have a back up or cloned disk. If you didn't I would do it now
> > before trying anything else. You can attach the NTFS partitions to a qube
> > and copy the data off, or clone the whole partition.
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> I appreciate your  replies,  I'm not a sysadmin,  enabled  legacy boot , i
> only vaguely understand  that that is requird for Qubes, anyway, i've got
> qubes installed,  it's just acting  different  than on my desktop version
> is,
> 
> I don't expect any replies, just hoping for more than 1 or 2  , hence I
> asked about the IRC,  but I'm guessing that isn't well attended  also
> 
> forgive me , for asking , it really isn't "a two minute" search it is that
> Grub and such are complicated for  non sysadmin  people
> 
> 
> just for the record, I would think Qubes might like to have  normal non
> sysadmin  people  able to use the OS,  so my questions to the list, my serve
> those people,
> 
> The format of post and wait days or never for a reply  may  not be ideal
> for anything  complicated  IMHO
> 
> anyway, thanks for listening
> 

Actually, normal, non sysadmin people CAN use the OS for the  most part
- the installation process can be problematic and even seasoned users can
find multiboot setups difficult. I would never recommend that - perhaps
the "multiboot" page should carry that warning.


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