Hello Patrik,

On 07/26/2017 04:24 PM, Patrik Hagara wrote:
On 07/26/2017 11:07 AM, 'P R' via qubes-users wrote:
Any idea where to look further and was is happening exactly
between "qrexec done" and "guid done"?
Try running

   systemd-analyze blame

in the DispVM for both old and new template, maybe some service is
misbehaving.
Thank your for the hint, I've run 'systemd-analyze blame' in the dvm, which was based on the fedora-23-image and launches firefox within 15 seconds.

I've also run 'systemd-analyze blame' in my fedora-25 based dvm, which is currently launching firefox in 62 seconds (vs. 15 seconds with a fedora-23 dvm)

I've compared the output of systemd-analyse blame in both dvms and the greatest difference is within the last few lines (I have attached the full output at the bottom of this email):

Fedora-25 DVM: starting a disposable Firefox within 60-70 seconds = very slow!

    1min 41.053s qubes-update-check.service
         20.913s qubes-dvm.service
         17.748s ldconfig.service
          8.011s dev-xvdd.device
          3.482s systemd-hwdb-update.service

Fedora-23 DVM: starting a disposable Firefox within 15 seconds

         16.052s qubes-dvm.service
         15.864s ldconfig.service
          6.085s dev-xvdd.device
          2.774s systemd-hwdb-update.service

As such my conclusion:

1) qubes-dvm.service seems to eat up more time compared to the fedora-23dvm
2) an additional service "qubes-update-check.service" seems to be running in the fedora-25 dvm which is not included in the fedora-23 dvm.

Someone has more ideas where to look further.
Is the timestamp the starting time of the service? If so, qubes-dvm.service runs much much longer in the fedora-25 dvm.
More important question: what are the options to fix this?

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Output of systemd-analyse blame in my fedora-23 DVM:

         16.052s qubes-dvm.service
         15.864s ldconfig.service
          6.085s dev-xvdd.device
          2.774s systemd-hwdb-update.service
          2.549s systemd-udevd.service
          2.464s dev-xvdb.device
          1.899s qubes-mount-dirs.service
          1.819s qubes-sysinit.service
          1.747s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
           958ms systemd-journal-flush.service
           951ms abrtd.service
           527ms auditd.service
           505ms systemd-fsck-root.service
           435ms qubes-db.service
           427ms abrt-ccpp.service
           400ms qubes-iptables.service
           359ms upower.service
           327ms polkit.service
           312ms qubes-misc-post.service
           259ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           251ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
           238ms proc-xen.mount
           236ms systemd-journal-catalog-update.service
           233ms dev-mqueue.mount
           230ms kmod-static-nodes.service
           221ms fedora-readonly.service
           219ms systemd-logind.service
           201ms systemd-sysctl.service
           195ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
           177ms systemd-journald.service
           176ms cups.service
           166ms systemd-remount-fs.service
           162ms systemd-sysusers.service
           157ms [email protected]
           149ms fedora-loadmodules.service
           124ms tmp.mount
           121ms iio-sensor-proxy.service
           106ms systemd-hostnamed.service
           101ms udisks2.service
            99ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
            94ms qubes-meminfo-writer.service
            92ms systemd-user-sessions.service
            83ms systemd-modules-load.service
            79ms rtkit-daemon.service
            77ms dev-xvdc1.swap
            67ms xendriverdomain.service
            61ms qubes-gui-agent.service
            60ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
            48ms systemd-random-seed.service
            47ms systemd-update-utmp.service
            38ms dracut-shutdown.service
            36ms qubes-qrexec-agent.service
            17ms systemd-update-done.service
            17ms sys-kernel-config.mount
            14ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service


Output of systemd-analyse blame in my fedora-25 DVM:

    1min 41.053s qubes-update-check.service
         20.913s qubes-dvm.service
         17.748s ldconfig.service
          8.011s dev-xvdd.device
          3.482s systemd-hwdb-update.service
          3.183s qubes-mount-dirs.service
          3.059s systemd-udevd.service
          2.431s dev-xvdb.device
          2.001s qubes-sysinit.service
          1.901s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
          1.683s systemd-journal-flush.service
          1.448s qubes-db.service
          1.170s qubes-misc-post.service
          1.068s systemd-fsck-root.service
          1.039s systemd-random-seed.service
           880ms xendriverdomain.service
           858ms systemd-logind.service
           813ms fedora-readonly.service
           795ms abrt-ccpp.service
           668ms polkit.service
           588ms abrtd.service
           503ms systemd-sysctl.service
           501ms systemd-journald.service
           463ms auditd.service
           453ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
           440ms qubes-iptables.service
           404ms systemd-journal-catalog-update.service
           364ms [email protected]
           357ms fedora-loadmodules.service
           336ms tmp.mount
           320ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
           314ms iio-sensor-proxy.service
           289ms systemd-modules-load.service
           286ms dev-mqueue.mount
           242ms proc-xen.mount
           216ms upower.service
           179ms cups.service
           172ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           168ms rtkit-daemon.service
           156ms systemd-sysusers.service
           150ms systemd-remount-fs.service
           145ms kmod-static-nodes.service
           145ms dev-xvdc1.swap
           115ms udisks2.service
           113ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
            94ms systemd-update-utmp.service
            84ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
            72ms systemd-user-sessions.service
            71ms qubes-gui-agent.service
            60ms systemd-hostnamed.service
            35ms qubes-meminfo-writer.service
            33ms dracut-shutdown.service
            17ms systemd-update-done.service
            16ms sys-kernel-config.mount
             8ms qubes-qrexec-agent.service


- PhR

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