On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 3:30:09 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > Hi,my name is Knut von Walter.In order to progress in my understanding of > Qubes OS, I am looking for members of the Qubes-community in > Munich-Bavaria-Germany. Thank you. Best of best Knut von Walter
If you look here, you can see how many people who use Qubes, based on unique IP addresses https://www.qubes-os.org/statistics/ Only the Tor IP's may be more of the same people, so ignore those. In addition, people may update Qubes while out in the wild, i.e. while on company, school, or if using VPN on. Basically, it's a rough statistic regarding how many people use Qubes. However, what the statistics does provide, is that no more than the maximum can exist. And this information is relevant to your question. Currently there is probably some 25.000 Qubes users, probably less, given the laptops that move abouts and update on different non-Tor IP's. It's probably not proper to take the German population, and devide by the world population, to find out the ratio, and transfer this ratio to the 25.000 Qubes users. This is because culture, and mouth to mouth recommendations, infrastructure like technical security universities, companies, etc. may spread Qubes in different and various populations across the world. However its given that Germany is more focused on security than some other western countries out there, so the ratio may be a bit higher than the average world ratio. Lets crack some numbers. Data is just roughly accurate, give or take some millions or source update delays, wiki use controversy, etc.. But it should be accurate enough to get a useful conclusion. We're not trying to split hairs after all. - Data - "The world population was estimated to have reached 7.6 billion as of October 2017" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population Germany Population 2017: 82,155,210 http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/germany-population/ Munich 1,330,440 Same link source as German population, just scroll down. Qubes users: ~ 25.000 https://www.qubes-os.org/statistics/ - Analysis - Step 1,A) 82M German pop. divided by 7.600M world pop. = 0,0107 (or 1,07 %). Step 1,B) 1,330M Munich pop. divided by 7.600M world pop. = 0,000175 (or 0,0175 %). ---- Step 2,A) 25.000 Qubes users multiplied by German/world population ratio 0,0107 = 267,5 German Qubes users. Step 2,B) 25.000 Qubes users multiplied by Munich/world population ratio 0,000175 = 4,3 Munich Qubes users. - Conclusion - This means, in a perfect square, evenly distributed scenario, there are at average some 267,5 Qubes users in all of Germany, and some 4,3 Qubes users in Munich specifically. However, keep in mind, this is evenly distributed. Other factors, such as culture, universities, companies, mouth to mouth, and so on, may change how even the distribution is. As such, you may for example be the only one in Munich to use Qubes, or perhaps, there are 10 others besides you in Munich. Similar, there may be 500 in German, or maybe only 10 QUbes users in Germany. - Perspective, a small extra study - However, we can make a logical deduction from our little inductive research above. Deductively, we can assume that because Germans are subjectively known t be more keen on security and privacy than some other western countries, or most countries in the world. And because Germany is one of the leading country in some technologies and science. It's not unlikely to think that Germany might have a somewhat higher distribution of Qubes users, compared to elsewhere. For example, it may be assumed that Germany then have 300? or maybe 700? Qubes users (up from 267,5), it's a wild guess. At this point, it becomes calculated guess-work. But you can still estimate the likelihood of how likely your guess is. However, keep in mind, a slightly bigger likelihood of more Qubes users in Germany, does not translate into many more Qubes users in Munich. Germany is about 88 times bigger in population than Munich is, so for every 88 extra Qubes user in Germany, there is only 1 extra in Munich, if evenly distributed. However, if you got universities, privacy advocated companies, or just plain lucky to have people interested in Qubes to spread mouth to mouth in Munich or near Munich, then Munich may have a bigger ratio as well. So, your take away, considering so few of the 25.000 Qubes users actually post on these e-mail thread / forums, it can be "assumed" that some just read without posting or rarely posting. However, many more likely don't read these e-mail thread / forums much or at all. This is without considering there are other Qubes platforms too, like the Reddit one. In other words, even if its evenly distributed, and there are 4,3 Qubes users in Munich alone, or even if your lucky, and the distribution is affected by factors that spread Qubes in Munich, then maybe there are some more, but its probably hardly record breaking. Maybe 10 max is a good guess? So, you're looking for 10 people, out of the 25.000 Qubes users. That's 10/25.000 = 0,0004 (or 0,04%). And we're being generous on the Munich pop. here. That means, out of 100 people posting here, you may probably, at maximum and if lucky, only find 1/0,004 = 250, that is, 1 person from Munch, out of every 250 people posting here on these forums. I'm not good with remembering names, but I hardly see that many people posting here. Perhaps there are that many? But the liklihood of you finding one of the other few hypothesized to exist Munich Qubes users here, you will probably have to be quite lucky. The odds of that happening, can't be calculated without some related data. But subjectively, I think it can be deduced to be quite unlikely. - Quality check - For good orders sake, lets ensure the numbers are correct by reverse calculation. 7600M world population, divided by 1,330 Munich population. That means, the world is 5.714,28 times bigger than the Munich population. In other words, if we calculate 5714,28 with the 4,3 Munich Qubes users. It becomes 24.571,42. Which is a little depreciated from the 25.000 total Qubes numbers (devil is in the details), however, it shows you that by reverse calculation, we reach full circle back to where we started. In other words, you now got a full circle perspective on what to expect regarding finding fellow local Qubes users. Albeit, the numbers are evenly squared in a perfect distributed world, you may include factors, like privacy minded universities, or companies, that operate in Munich, or something like that. But keep it as calculative as possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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