Wow! Just wow! I am really impressed! Now I'm going to make such statistics for my country.
On November 22, 2017 6:50:36 PM UTC, Yuraeitha <yuraei...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 3:30:09 PM UTC, in...@websecur.eu >wrote: >> Hi,my name is Knut von Walter.In order to progress in my >understanding of Qubes OS, I am looking for members of the >Qubes-community in Munich-Bavaria-Germany. Thank you. Best of best Knut >von Walter > >If you look here, you can see how many people who use Qubes, based on >unique IP addresses https://www.qubes-os.org/statistics/ >Only the Tor IP's may be more of the same people, so ignore those. In >addition, people may update Qubes while out in the wild, i.e. while on >company, school, or if using VPN on. Basically, it's a rough statistic >regarding how many people use Qubes. > >However, what the statistics does provide, is that no more than the >maximum can exist. And this information is relevant to your question. > >Currently there is probably some 25.000 Qubes users, probably less, >given the laptops that move abouts and update on different non-Tor >IP's. > >It's probably not proper to take the German population, and devide by >the world population, to find out the ratio, and transfer this ratio to >the 25.000 Qubes users. This is because culture, and mouth to mouth >recommendations, infrastructure like technical security universities, >companies, etc. may spread Qubes in different and various populations >across the world. >However its given that Germany is more focused on security than some >other western countries out there, so the ratio may be a bit higher >than the average world ratio. > >Lets crack some numbers. Data is just roughly accurate, give or take >some millions or source update delays, wiki use controversy, etc.. But >it should be accurate enough to get a useful conclusion. We're not >trying to split hairs after all. > >- Data - >"The world population was estimated to have reached 7.6 billion as of >October 2017" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population > >Germany Population 2017: 82,155,210 >http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/germany-population/ > >Munich 1,330,440 >Same link source as German population, just scroll down. > >Qubes users: ~ 25.000 >https://www.qubes-os.org/statistics/ > >- Analysis - >Step 1,A) >82M German pop. divided by 7.600M world pop. = 0,0107 (or 1,07 %). > >Step 1,B) >1,330M Munich pop. divided by 7.600M world pop. = 0,000175 (or 0,0175 >%). > >---- > >Step 2,A) >25.000 Qubes users multiplied by German/world population ratio 0,0107 = >267,5 German Qubes users. > >Step 2,B) >25.000 Qubes users multiplied by Munich/world population ratio 0,000175 >= 4,3 Munich Qubes users. > > >- Conclusion - >This means, in a perfect square, evenly distributed scenario, there are >at average some 267,5 Qubes users in all of Germany, and some 4,3 Qubes >users in Munich specifically. However, keep in mind, this is evenly >distributed. Other factors, such as culture, universities, companies, >mouth to mouth, and so on, may change how even the distribution is. As >such, you may for example be the only one in Munich to use Qubes, or >perhaps, there are 10 others besides you in Munich. Similar, there may >be 500 in German, or maybe only 10 QUbes users in Germany. > >- Perspective, a small extra study - >However, we can make a logical deduction from our little inductive >research above. Deductively, we can assume that because Germans are >subjectively known t be more keen on security and privacy than some >other western countries, or most countries in the world. And because >Germany is one of the leading country in some technologies and science. >It's not unlikely to think that Germany might have a somewhat higher >distribution of Qubes users, compared to elsewhere. > >For example, it may be assumed that Germany then have 300? or maybe >700? Qubes users (up from 267,5), it's a wild guess. At this point, it >becomes calculated guess-work. But you can still estimate the >likelihood of how likely your guess is. > >However, keep in mind, a slightly bigger likelihood of more Qubes users >in Germany, does not translate into many more Qubes users in Munich. >Germany is about 88 times bigger in population than Munich is, so for >every 88 extra Qubes user in Germany, there is only 1 extra in Munich, >if evenly distributed. However, if you got universities, privacy >advocated companies, or just plain lucky to have people interested in >Qubes to spread mouth to mouth in Munich or near Munich, then Munich >may have a bigger ratio as well. > >So, your take away, considering so few of the 25.000 Qubes users >actually post on these e-mail thread / forums, it can be "assumed" that >some just read without posting or rarely posting. However, many more >likely don't read these e-mail thread / forums much or at all. This is >without considering there are other Qubes platforms too, like the >Reddit one. > >In other words, even if its evenly distributed, and there are 4,3 Qubes >users in Munich alone, or even if your lucky, and the distribution is >affected by factors that spread Qubes in Munich, then maybe there are >some more, but its probably hardly record breaking. Maybe 10 max is a >good guess? > >So, you're looking for 10 people, out of the 25.000 Qubes users. That's >10/25.000 = 0,0004 (or 0,04%). And we're being generous on the Munich >pop. here. > >That means, out of 100 people posting here, you may probably, at >maximum and if lucky, only find 1/0,004 = 250, that is, 1 person from >Munch, out of every 250 people posting here on these forums. > >I'm not good with remembering names, but I hardly see that many people >posting here. Perhaps there are that many? But the liklihood of you >finding one of the other few hypothesized to exist Munich Qubes users >here, you will probably have to be quite lucky. > >The odds of that happening, can't be calculated without some related >data. But subjectively, I think it can be deduced to be quite unlikely. > > > >- Quality check - >For good orders sake, lets ensure the numbers are correct by reverse >calculation. 7600M world population, divided by 1,330 Munich >population. That means, the world is 5.714,28 times bigger than the >Munich population. In other words, if we calculate 5714,28 with the 4,3 >Munich Qubes users. It becomes 24.571,42. Which is a little depreciated >from the 25.000 total Qubes numbers (devil is in the details), however, >it shows you that by reverse calculation, we reach full circle back to >where we started. In other words, you now got a full circle perspective >on what to expect regarding finding fellow local Qubes users. Albeit, >the numbers are evenly squared in a perfect distributed world, you may >include factors, like privacy minded universities, or companies, that >operate in Munich, or something like that. But keep it as calculative >as possible. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "qubes-users" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. >To view this discussion on the web visit >https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0125f2ea-d184-40c3-9a6b-0255deaba69c%40googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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