On Tuesday, 28 November 2017 18:33:37 CET Foppe de Haan wrote: > Bottom line IMO these days security can't be done by a layman,
Security as a concept is not that black / white, there is no 100% security and likewise I fail to see how "laymen" can't increase their security. As a quick example, in Windows you can download an exe and start it with zero technical knowledge. In Linux a downloaded executable can't be started without the user explicitly marking it "executable". Guiding people into doing the right thing can be done. As long as you don't aim for perfect security (which honestly doesn't exist anyway), you can help people increase their security significantly. In my humble opinion, this is already happening in Qubes. The NetVM is a good example of a standard setup that has become completely transparant to users while isolating them from bad drivers causing security issues for many other linux users. The people that need this most are those that don't have the technical know- how, exactly because they don't understand how opening an executable or PDF from the net can cause any harm. The point I'm trying to make is that those people can already use this software today, but many of the more fun features are impossible to them because they have not been made easy. I'd also like to mention that all things require time to learn, I'd like to set up some firewall rules to let different VMs communicate between themselves. But lacking a nice GUI I have to figure out how to do this at the command line, and I honestly just don't have the time to learn that right now. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1799306.mAIeOnHVnd%40cherry. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.