-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 2018-01-26 09:37, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > Hi, > > Manual testing of installation is a time consuming job, so I was looking > for some tool to automate it. And found one: > > http://open.qa/ > > This works by launching the system under test in KVM and then interact > with it as user would do (mouse clicks, keyboard etc). Then compare > screenshots (or parts of it). > The nice thing is when using new new enough KVM, qemu and hardware with > VT-x + EPT, Qubes installation works there! In theory KVM supports even > nested virtualization, so HVM should works inside such setup, but in > practice Xen and/or qemu crashes badly... But PV works fine, which is > enough for installation testing. > > I've uploaded some basic tests here: > https://github.com/marmarek/openqa-tests-qubesos > > The problem is we don't have a place to host it in long run. While I can > launch it from time to time on one of my testing laptops, it doesn't > scale well. And access to it is restricted, which limit who can work on > this (and on issues found by tests). > > Does anyone have some place/recommendation where to look? Hardware we > need: > - CPU with VT-x + EPT, so KVM will work with reasonable performance ( > means a physical machine, not virtual one) > - 6-8 GB RAM (4GB for KVM + something for OpenQA itself) > - 50 GB of disk (preferably more) > > Does anyone have a spare machine running somewhere, and willing to > share? > > Alternatively, it looks like we can get one for ~70 EUR/month. Andrew, > Michael, could we use opencollective money for this? >
The OpenCollective money is supposed to be used to pay developers to work on the open-source version of Qubes. While this would not be a direct payment to a developer, I can see how it would qualify, since it's directly saving you and other devs time and work that would otherwise have to be spent on testing. I think it would adhere to the spirit of the rule, which is that the money should be spent on improving the open-source version of Qubes. (Arguably, it would be even more efficient than paying a developer directly, since Qubes would probably benefit a lot more from the testing bought by that ~70 EUR/month than it would from the tiny amount of developer time ~70 EUR/month would pay for.) However, I'd be surprised if there were no one in the Qubes community willing to share a suitable machine for this purpose. My guess is that there aren't as many readers on qubes-project as there are on qubes-devel and qubes-users, so I'm CCing those other lists. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAlpr1ioACgkQ203TvDlQ MDBZaA/9HZWo8gZh5UsrKEAWIC4c4b4hnL2U0NZvqi508qbr65DmqW67y/QGXA0q EI3VNHpNrhL99jpWGlsGnN3K1Dss+NKKEk82AVsqw6in9P1LA+9CyMjf3TQB1yLn QkWyFc0E/+wN4ExpMgUuX7kqTv9TgjPrFki+KajpsIvQpXDOqMxM6vNdYitI8fer B1cpIn0gS17ANcvlXJU2OhLKEradX6msZJdAYWlrZPpy7XEIPtnJTugsN5fm6kr/ ChsQtGH7OTHIJkd0pEr9YODhyr/Tpp6OYDwsQL1uWW4W8K03Mhmh5q+MuKg/scvG nv8vINL0wo010GdiqsU/bvqB7pYkOFcdsghgM3gy1jBK8E7aR4KgNrafKn22D7eu fC0Y2LlJmGZ6s+l//sfI6YIMi/iCj+6zUHXLdcGrLI9v+iYu23/9Lz6oyKl1Vedv +6zh0PasElJXxAgdBGN7Se16ApC8/cTLeEcHhAQ1No/Tye3TaYE1U4ouj+9d6o1l f7LLiSs1wxmBZcRdK09yK7zqcqi92NsgwBzmKwoz6fQFljo+G3/giar0xZ+8HPXN HTnQ0von8o22yoK7x5H9jc+Fmq32zUvmYy2R3dAkY8PVmOgVEyf5z2OY3q0HEiEK 25kYJw9tdC7ZS6kI22l4tLGaAm6ntoM/ZbFUG0wrpESunWVrZOE= =EIwB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/55e4159c-7573-c6ca-b7f2-a859875dd5d0%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.