On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 8:51:45 PM UTC-5, Unman wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 01:44:10AM +0000, Unman wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 06:52:12PM -0800, Tim W wrote:
> > > Also when I ran setup script it required PyYaml and that was also shown 
> > > in https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-builder/ Building Qubes From 
> > > Scratch 
> > > 
> > > Then you have the build directions that there is notes to follow the 
> > > Archlinux directions for using the builder tools and they do not have 
> > > them but then it includes python.sh rather than python2.sh .  The latter 
> > > is definitely needed.
> > > 
> > > Then finally in the README.md file in the qubes-builder which you are 
> > > directed to read it has you install perl-open but not dpkg-dev 
> > > debootstrap and a few others.  So we are basically given directions to go 
> > > to at least 3 different places that all have from slightly different to 
> > > completely different instructions for building qubes.
> > > 
> > > IMHO for the advanced user who wants to build qubes from source the 
> > > ./setup script is by far the easiest to follow as it being a all 
> > > inclusive script handles many steps for you in a nice basic gui.  Issue 
> > > is we need to have some very basic steps of what will work with each OS 
> > > version.  It would only take 10-15 min to update a markup page for each 
> > > os.  Everything is there except what works with what OS and frankly 
> > > that's all in terms of instructions that should have to change ever in 
> > > qubes current xen based format.  If a dev could even just post a list of 
> > > what templates work with the version in the group I or others can easily 
> > > update the doc page.  I have helped in that area before as its one area 
> > > IMO any and all qubes users can help out with and give back to the 
> > > project. 
> > > 
> > 
> > afaik the current instructions on the website are targeted to Fedora 26,
> > the currently supported version, and should be complete.
> > The archlinux instructions are quite out of date and the README definitely
> > needs to be updated.
> > I'm not sure what you mean by OS version, or most of your last
> > paragraph. Can you clarify?
> Sorry, I've gone back to your original post and it's clearer.
> You should be able to build all the templates referenced in the setup
> program. If you can't, then (barring network problems) it's a bug.
> Its a moot point whether you should be building some of the older,
> eol templates, and whether they should be available to build.

Correct on the older templates.  The oldest I would consider is fc25 and wheezy 
etc..   for it to be working correctly without bug I would expect to be able to 
choose all none EOL templates together and have it build.  Would need 100+ gigs 
but it  should work.   That is what I am working towards.

My original issue with setup script might have been part network and part gpg 
sig issue.   Just would like to know and then update the offical Doc etc pages 
with correct info where needed.

The issue with archlinux is it is referenced at least twice in other docs as to 
being the most uptodate instructions for building qubes and templates.  
Basically much of the docs are a mess as they have conflicting missing dif info.

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