On 08/25/2018 03:59 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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On 2018-08-25 14:24, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
On Sat, August 25, 2018 7:01 pm, Chris Laprise wrote:
On 08/25/2018 02:25 PM, Rusty Bird wrote:
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I am using version R 4.O and recently decided to set up a new Vpn
connection . But when I try to select the type is only giving me AppVM
and Standalone option so obviously I can't move forward . I am
attaching picture of it so you can see it youself :
https://imgur.com/a/xTmpUDX .


Tick the "provides network" box, that's the R4.0 equivalent to ProxyVM
in older Qubes versions.

Rusty


I've come to the conclusion that attempting to change the terminology
for VM types was a mistake. People are getting confused and referring to
"network-providing appVM" in the generic is awkward at best --
especially if you are merely describing or referring to VMs instead of
giving instructions on creating them.

Think some additional text in the dialog box like "provides network
('ProxyVM')" would do it? Agree that "network-providing appVM" is a bit of
a mouthful.


If I understand correctly, it's not merely a terminological change.
Rather, there is simply no longer such a thing as a "ProxyVM" in Qubes
4.0, where a "ProxyVM" is understood to be a VM that has the inherent
property of proxying network access. Instead, "provides network" is a
switchable property can apply (or not) to *any* VM. You can flip the
switch on to make a VM play the role of a ProxyVM (and/or a NetVM?),
then switch it off again later, and it'll still be the same VM. At any
rate, that's what I gather from this comment from Marek:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1763#issuecomment-188786341

Except VMs internally still use the proxyVM term in /var/run/qubes for example. Its how my VPN code makes decisions about where+what to run.

I'd vote for adding (ProxyVM) in parentheses to the "provides network" label (not tooltip) in the create dialog.


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