-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 2018-08-25 15:33, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 08/25/2018 03:59 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: >> On 2018-08-25 14:24, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: >>> On Sat, August 25, 2018 7:01 pm, Chris Laprise wrote: >>>> On 08/25/2018 02:25 PM, Rusty Bird wrote: >>>>> odindva0...@gmail.com: >>>>> >>>>>> I am using version R 4.O and recently decided to set up a new Vpn >>>>>> connection . But when I try to select the type is only giving me >>>>>> AppVM >>>>>> and Standalone option so obviously I can't move forward . I am >>>>>> attaching picture of it so you can see it youself : >>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/xTmpUDX . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tick the "provides network" box, that's the R4.0 equivalent to ProxyVM >>>>> in older Qubes versions. >>>>> >>>>> Rusty >>>>> >>>> >>>> I've come to the conclusion that attempting to change the terminology >>>> for VM types was a mistake. People are getting confused and >>>> referring to >>>> "network-providing appVM" in the generic is awkward at best -- >>>> especially if you are merely describing or referring to VMs instead of >>>> giving instructions on creating them. >>> >>> Think some additional text in the dialog box like "provides network >>> ('ProxyVM')" would do it? Agree that "network-providing appVM" is a >>> bit of >>> a mouthful. >>> >> >> If I understand correctly, it's not merely a terminological change. >> Rather, there is simply no longer such a thing as a "ProxyVM" in Qubes >> 4.0, where a "ProxyVM" is understood to be a VM that has the inherent >> property of proxying network access. Instead, "provides network" is a >> switchable property can apply (or not) to *any* VM. You can flip the >> switch on to make a VM play the role of a ProxyVM (and/or a NetVM?), >> then switch it off again later, and it'll still be the same VM. At any >> rate, that's what I gather from this comment from Marek: >> >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1763#issuecomment-188786341 >> > > Except VMs internally still use the proxyVM term in /var/run/qubes for > example. Its how my VPN code makes decisions about where+what to run. > > I'd vote for adding (ProxyVM) in parentheses to the "provides network" > label (not tooltip) in the create dialog. >
In that case, I certainly agree. Calling it "provides network" is clearly an attempt to accommodate new users who don't know what a ProxyVM is, but there's no reason to confuse experienced users by removing *all* mention of ProxyVM, when we can accommodate both groups by simply calling it "provides network (ProxyVM)". - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAluCW0AACgkQ203TvDlQ MDCW0Q/7BNTyaCkmoC9788EIU9C6Q4ob+yuXJRHs8nLD4kEOW/cQJTByeUdErQOM S+zgBOKkG28AzeOIMtjqbNPSQ9Pja28uWRLCEQPWIETnfHocxPpQemckOQa8f8Pz 1jpu5ndSekEkjSVGvXU05OEUVb4AEQcQ4Tm4R65NjarILGqDAf08zJdaIrnj3Up+ sS46FLqYNpy6J+A/6Pm2XeZRu4gwc48Dpuz+xAnMXhe7ZFQ7qtFagqsGcQQgksB4 T1If57Ndei0/pZmRKB7/p+uiAHtDkfYnj80mFg+x3gaK5J3ughaOWBE88eSWcnjc J6AdUdSFOeU0YO5pejlVTrQP0kKU7mlKX5n76GS1bLr/OY/r4ijGKqcazeSj1lKy xHT9sFWp+hpTCwP0F2wgSsnte0q/c/q9tNGUrTTQ3PzT26nf4N1t089wCg9KiqKR PnT31EeNdBBlBMuq1XCq6xFjoy8sQnKh6Cih2qxk5h43OiwA8zstArTYc+eiJ3DH U2D+4DZHLMxkcRYTmYUM6MObLjJS0gQ9A2qqWD0u+uv8rMkrrcnS5icUbKtwz0Xc V9TGpcUdjhNAQF43y0AIx5EDgrofzLyqfOtOXgP7rSzYBbEkVp5mG1FVkeYfToKl XpF7yulSsLe8dvv+I/KjaGwnkwpXUlffp4vlLNrS2dOyt7cOJSw= =IZdK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fcd24c61-b212-e57b-22d4-6906dad66442%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
