W dniu środa, 17 października 2018 02:19:32 UTC+2 użytkownik tai...@gmx.com 
napisał:
> On 10/16/2018 12:21 PM, Yethal wrote:
> > W dniu wtorek, 16 października 2018 01:22:58 UTC+2 użytkownik 
> > tai...@gmx.com napisał:
> >> On 10/15/2018 02:09 PM, Yethal wrote:> It also has a PS/2 port
> >> (extremely important in Qubes and often overlooked)
> >> Misinformation.
> >>
> >> You instea dwant more than one USB controller on a system so you can
> >> have both trusted for keyboard/mice and untrusted for random stuff (all
> >> my recs in my other reply have this, the D16/D8's have a second
> >> controller via a few onboard usb headers)
> >>
> >> PS/2 is not secure at all - your keystrokes are outputted on the ground
> >> wire.
> >>
> >> I suggest purchasing a usb keyboard that doesn't have firmware such as
> >> the excellent us made unicomp model m mechanical keyboard, to prevent
> >> use of a keyboard virus.
> >>
> >> Definitely agreed with not buying nvidia junk though, they artificially
> >> hamper virt with their geforce stuff and they also hate linux drivers
> >> and FOSS.
> > 
> > If I have more than one USB controller and I leave one controller in dom0 
> > and all the other ones in sys-usb that is all fine and dandy except there 
> > is still a usb controller in dom0 which kinda defeats the purpose of even 
> > having sys-usb unless the keyboard and mouse wires were to be soldered 
> > directly to the ports. 
> > Also, if an attacker is capable of tapping into the ground wire of your 
> > keyboard to listen to the keystrokes then they are more than capable of 
> > simply plugging a usb keylogger and/or usb hub and a flashdrive. IMHO a usb 
> > controller in dom0 poses much bigger security risk due to reduced attack 
> > complexity.
> > 
> 
> Why would you have one in dom0? the idea is that you make one sys-usb
> per controller so for example one trusted for inputs and one not trusted
> for random stuff.
> 
> Ground wires where I live go far away from where I am sitting as they do
> in any large office complex so that is not so good. Any secure facility
> has ground wire isolation for that reason.

Because if you don't and you blacklist the controller in dom0 then it's not 
possible to type the disk passphrase as sys-usb is not active this early in 
boot process.

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