Sorry to jump out of the Purism thing. Some weeks ago I put here the question 
too and it was bit stormy, so I keep it aside. 

Mate, you mention the "Lenova 400 series". That was my question short before in 
my post. I am planning to buy this guy: https://tehnoetic.com/tet-t400s 
<https://tehnoetic.com/tet-t400s> It is RYF and so the ME and AMT is completely 
removed. My question was, if I could run Qubes 4 on it. The answer was it is 
too old to have the required virtualization needed to run Qubes 4. 

Now, do you think the RYF T400s above, which si T400 series you mention, could 
run the Qubes 4? This would be great. One could run the reasonably secure OS on 
reasonably secure HW. Yay!


Nov 11, 2018, 6:07 AM by [email protected]:

> Tough questions and discussion but in the spirit of finding the "best" we can 
> get laptop for Qubes 4.0  (Best being defined as: available to purchase, 
> priced right, most open, most "reasonably" secure and...."reasonably simple" 
> to maintain), for me I see the following as my best options, ranked:
>
> Lenovo Carbon 5G X1
> Available
> Good RAM
> Little pricey
> Easy install/maintain? Not sure if I can flash these BIOS...
>
> Lenova 400 series
> Available
> Affordable
> Limited RAM?
> Little boxy
> Easier to install/maintain
>
> Librem 'what ever" model
> Available
> NOT Affordable
> Limited RAM?
> Reasonably easy to install/maintain!
>
> G505
> NOT as Available
> Affordable
> Limited RAM?
> Very boxy?
> Tough to install/maintain (Flash BIOS?? Out of my scope...)
>
>
> 200 series
> NOT as Available?
> Affordable
> Limited RAM?
> Very boxy?
> Tough to install/maintain! (Flash BIOS?? Out of my scope...)
>
>
> Dell/HP/Other?
> I don't know, but I suspect Qubes was developeded on Lenovo's yet select 
> models work
>
> Desk Tops
> I need a laptop...
>
> Keep in mind I might weigh some of the "Easy to install/maintain" perspective 
> more heavily but I see my best options as:
>
> 1)Carbon X1 being the ultimate winner (if I want to invest the $1k)
> 2)T400+ series for the budget concerned
> 3)Librem if you want to get the best you can with out the "fuss" and pay some 
> $$
> 4)G505/200 if you have the technical know-how/experience
>
>
> What I am struggling to weigh is the security/privacy/trust compromises and 
> implications I have made/would make? I know G505/200 type products are most 
> secure but how can I get one pre-installed and done (Easy) yet still balance 
> trust, security, afford-ability, etc....I fear the open source BIOS are out 
> of my technical scope to install and maintain.
>
> I find Librem intriguing with the easiest "most" open source option for the 
> "reasonable" layman(person)...sure not Intel/AMD/government secure but at 
> least non chip maker collusion secure? Lets assume Librem screwed up 
> initially with their claims....are they clear now? Is their product a good 
> option?
>
> Decisions, Decisions...
>
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