Just played around again with the sun icon, this time starting my whonix-gw 
template used for template updates prior, a couple of observations:

Seems to work fine when updating Debian and Fedora 29 templates, at least the 
messages I get in the details appear positive, listing the updates/changes, 
green check marks, etc....

However when I try to update my whonix14 templates (both -ws and -gw) I get 
what appears to be errors. I still don't know how to copy errors from Dom0 to 
an appvm but the errors end with:

File"/var...salt...futures import cancelledError
ImportError: No module named concurrent.futures
...

A little back ground on my Qubes...I started using Qubes out of an immediate 
need for security and have been backing in to how to use it over the last few 
years. I consider myself pretty good but I am still missing what appears to be 
basic skills.

How do I check:
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy

Sorry to ask but can you explain in more detail?

Thanks again Qubes and all those contributing...I really appreciate it! I'll 
document what I can using this feature...
 



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