On 7/21/19 5:44 PM, Lorenzo Lamas wrote:
Very nice to finally have a certified Qubes laptop!

Personally, for me it would be nice if there was a more powerful alternative in the future. I'm currently using something with about the same resource power and I find myself often wishing I had something faster because Qubes is quite heavy compared to a standard OS. It would be great to have a quad core CPU(and a proper one, not one of those power-saving U line from Intel), 32GB RAM or more and a NVMe SSD instead of SATA. Also, there is the issue of the CPU being a 3rd gen Intel i CPU. Maybe this is specifically chosen because later CPU's are harder to get blob free, I don't know the details. However, Intel had quite a few side channel vulnerabilities over the past year, and this year they dropped microcode update support for 1st gen CPU's, so there is a pretty high chance they will drop 2nd gen support next year and 3rd gen support the year after that.

There is even one statement from Intel out there that they've tentatively already dropped support for 3rd gen (which is what the X230 and its 'sister' the T430s uses).

The Lenovo G505s should be slightly more powerful than the X230, and its AMD A10 processor is significantly less prone to attack.

The only problems with it are that HEADS doesn't work (not a big disadvantage, given how vulnerable X230's older TPM is), and to install Qubes you need to flash it with a Coreboot config that requires you to add an un-signed graphics driver (I think if enough people posted SHA256 hashes of the driver it wouldn't be a big problem).

It also accepts ECC RAM, which reduces the DDR3 side-channel vulnerabilities somewhat.

So the alternative to the 2012 laptop is the 2013 laptop. A bit underwhelming.

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The overall problem here is none of these open source OS projects are true integrators or designers, not when it has anything to do with hardware. This is why Qubes project will identify USB controller isolation as a major issue, but then do nothing about it (note the X230 is lacking a secondary USB controller). They'll say Intel or X86 is fundamentally insecure, but won't begin to describe what a good alternative would look like at the component level; without that, there's nothing into which the hardware people to sink their teeth or even notice Qubes.

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