At 14:04 29/08/2019, unman wrote:
>I have to point out that you can run Qubes fine with HDD and 12GB RAM -
>even 8GB is doable.
>quick ebay suggests you can get x230 with *that* config regularly for less than
>$200 - i7 with 16GB went for $175 recently.
>If you drop down to an i5 (still workable) you can come in at less than
>$100.
>I know people who are using burners at these specs they have acquired
>for free - worth the UX pain for the added security. There's always a
>trade off.

Just to throw this out there - not everyone has access to ebay or any thriving 
second hand market for that matter ;-/
I know I would jump for joy, if I could get my hands on such hardware at THAT 
price. 

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